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Thread: Stupid Curiosity....

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    Default Stupid Curiosity....

    So, I was watching an exciting video showing the proper ways to locate and I noticed something.

    There are two types of locators out there. One keeps his reciever perpendicular to the ground and moves it side to side with no wag of the machine.

    The other wags the reciver like the tail of an exited puppy.

    With this I ask the question.....

    Which locator are you? Perpendicular or Wagger?

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Perpendicular.

    Swinging it in a pendulum like arc is inherently inaccurate. Especially where the utility makes a turn.

    I have done damage investigations and audits and replicated mismarks by swinging the receiver rather than perpendicular. The faster you walk the worse it gets when swinging the receiver.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    I know a Sup/Trainer that is a major wagger. His marks are usually within a foot of the actual target though. Don't know how.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Most would say that they do not swing their receiver, but when you sit back and watch, most everybody does to a certain extent.

    Good question Mke.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mke View Post
    So, I was watching an exciting video showing the proper ways to locate and I noticed something.

    There are two types of locators out there. One keeps his reciever perpendicular to the ground and moves it side to side with no wag of the machine.

    The other wags the reciver like the tail of an exited puppy.

    With this I ask the question.....

    Which locator are you? Perpendicular or Wagger?
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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Wagging is ok when you're just following a line but when it's time to put the paint down, you have to stay perpendicular unless you want the potholers to hate you.
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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    I use a RD 4000 and I will hold it with one finger and let the weight keep me perpendicular as I go back and forth.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Quote Originally Posted by daman1 View Post
    Wagging is ok when you're just following a line but when it's time to put the paint down, you have to stay perpendicular unless you want the potholers to hate you.
    Just ask the locator I tore a new asshole yesterday. This guy was such a waste of skin he needs to go work at McDonalds - it's the perfect job for his IQ.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    I remember my Trainer used to get pissed at me cause I wouldn't Wag the reciever. When he eventually went over to privates he figured out that wagging it did nothing but cause heart ache and discontent.

    I ask this question cause On most of these videos they show locators swishing that reciever back and forth violently and nothing gets my goat more then a locator marking utilities and swinging the reciever that way.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    OK....


    First, I didn't know there were "exciting" locating videos. Don't worry, there's also no "exciting" boring videos.


    Second, when I'm trying to find something I'll go perpendicular. I've noticed that even when the receiver goes up a little on the wag I'll get a spike on signal. It boggles the mind how these locators find anything when they're just out there swinging the stick around.
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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Quote Originally Posted by jayc View Post
    Second, when I'm trying to find something I'll go perpendicular. I've noticed that even when the receiver goes up a little on the wag I'll get a spike on signal. It boggles the mind how these locators find anything when they're just out there swinging the stick around.
    The only time I will swing and walk fast is on a remark from a month ago that have been called in several times. After time there is paint all over the place. I will usually put offsets on jobs that get called in and over & over with no work started.
    Last edited by TheCableVine; October 29th, 2014 at 11:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Quote Originally Posted by daman1 View Post
    Wagging is ok when you're just following a line but when it's time to put the paint down, you have to stay perpendicular unless you want the potholers to hate you.
    This.
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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessionalLocator View Post
    Perpendicular.

    Swinging it in a pendulum like arc is inherently inaccurate. Especially where the utility makes a turn.

    I have done damage investigations and audits and replicated mismarks by swinging the receiver rather than perpendicular. The faster you walk the worse it gets when swinging the receiver.
    The antenna in the receiver are directional, if not held perpendicular they will not give accurate results.

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    I wag but pinpoint when I put the paint down. If I'm in a hurry I don't wag I just keep it still and follow the cable like a record needle in a groove.
    "Change does not always equal progress."

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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    Quote Originally Posted by UULC View Post
    I use a RD 4000 and I will hold it with one finger and let the weight keep me perpendicular as I go back and forth.
    That one finger must be the strongest part of your whole body, especially if that's all that's holding up that 4000 all day every day.
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    Default Re: Stupid Curiosity....

    I only do 2 way tickets. For me I like the 4000. I hold it with my index finger and walk. I watch the millamps and the signal strength. Most ppl will grab it like it is going to run away and swing. That leave you open for errors and being off to one side or the other center of the facility.

    Most of my projects have offsets that I put paint on every time I get an update.

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