View Poll Results: Should the scantily clothed female avatars be removed from this site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLOC8 View Post
    RD_Wrangler ... I've seen comments posted on the forum that some employers will not hire someone if they apply to a job that they posted on this site. Makes no sense to me but that is their perogative. I also know that some employers frown upon their employees posting on or viewing this site. I don't quite understand that because we all need a place to go to educate ourselves, ask questions, feel a sense of comraderie and yes, even vent once in a while. For that, I applaud Steve for creating this forum for all of us to use.
    Hey COLOC8 - Welcome to the'Vine! I wish we had more ladies as members. It is the respect I have for the lady members here at the'Vine that keeps me from unleashing any images I consider "soft porn"..................

    Employers investigating prospective employees search MySpace, Facebook and credit bureaus today to weed out "undesirables." (45% Employers use Facebook-Twitter to screen job candidates) Once the Obamacare forces "National Healthcare Identification Cards" on us, employers can search medical records on prospective employees also! Only in America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by locator00566 View Post
    I would like to start a poll. Should I change my avatar?
    I'm pretty confident the response would be a resounding YES! Feel free to go ahead and create one, you can do it yourself (create a poll). Should you change your avatar? Maybe. As of right now, nobody will make you. And that, is the beauty of this particular site.

    Well spoken as always RD, AUL.....go get a smoke, you seem tense buddy. LOL

    COLOC8, regardless of how many times you post that you weren't trying to come off as a whiner, you came off as a whiner about our avatars. RD and AUL are right, you don't get to dictate what avatars we use......only Steve can do that. If you wanna talk Locating or motorcycles or electronics or sports or politics, freel free, but don't mosey in here and expect us to change anything to accomodate your "personal views". Oh, and on a separate note, I peeked at your e-mail address....and it's seems to be familiar, are you positive you are a female? Or are you a male, just trying to "stir the pot" a little bit?

    Spray, ****ing hilarious as always.

    Steve, thanks for not censoring the hell out of us.
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    AULupstate : "Are you just being an asshole?" ... You are an asshole. What difference does it make? At no time have I used any profanity in conversing with you or anyone else. You asked if I was looking to pick a fight. I'm not the one getting heated but again I will point out that all I did was ask a question.

    Yes, I believe in freedom of speech. People like me who want to ask questions to get some insight as to why people do what they do are not the problem with this country. I'm not standing outside Steve's house causing a scene. I'm not stirring the pot by asking people if they want to get this forum shut down because there were pictures posted that may or may not offend some. I'm not trying to cause an uproar or stand on my soap box and preach to the world what is and isn't acceptable. I asked a simple question. Not once have I told you or any others what to think. If you want me to go into the whole degrading of women argument I can but I'm not looking to do that. Reason being is because I'm not one of those kind of women. I believe we degrade ourselves sometimes as much as some men (NOT ALL) seem to degrade us. I could honestly care less if there are biggie fries, supersized, transfat, blah, blah, blah. Smoking is a whole other issue but I'm not even going to go there with you because I know you smoke and it is obvious that it doesn't seem to matter to you what I think or have to say anyway.

    Not once have I cried, whined, bitched or complained. Seems to me that you are the one being overly sensitive. If I was minding my own business, I wouldn't visit this site at all. Aren't we all in each other's business when we do? "This WHOLE topic goes much much deeper than 'just an avatar' that YOU find offensive." You are making it much deeper and where and at what time did I say that I found this picture to be offensive?

    Hello Wingfoot. Thank you and thanks for the welcome. I've lurked around this site for a while and have never posted anything before now. Now I know why. Most of you seem like a really good bunch and having been in this industry for well over 10 years, I know that the days are long and the work is hard so I'm thinking that maybe one or two people are just having a bad day.

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    ifinditunderground ... I am a female. I happen to share an e-mail address with my husband. I have been in this industry 10 years, he has been a lot longer and has his own mind, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLOC8 View Post
    ifinditunderground ... I am a female. I happen to share an e-mail address with my husband. I have been in this industry 10 years, he has been a lot longer and has his own mind, thank you.
    I appreciate your honesty, thanks. I'm done.

    Oh, and Wing....easy there, if anybody has posted images that could be defined as borderline soft core, that would be the Wing.

    Wingfoot posted: "It is the respect I have for the lady members here at the'Vine that keeps me from unleashing any images I consider "soft porn".................." Cough Cough <Bullshit> Cough

    As for those images, thanks, and keep them coming -Thumbs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCableVine View Post
    I want ALL locators to feel comfortable when they visit thecablevine.

    With that having been said I want to say this as well. Posting a poll in order to make changes to the site is not the way to do things... THEN when the poll doesn't go your way and nobody takes action over your concerns you post a picture equally offensive to the ones you are complaining about.

    Thanks to everyone for you continued support of the site and your willingness to make this a site that everyone will feel comfortable visiting.
    Hey COLOC8, I think you are a class act and an asset to the locating industry. The fact that you came to this site seeking info to refine your skills and share your knowledge proves that. Too bad you got ambushed and dragged into a knucklehead arguement that I'm positive you don't want. To top it off now you have the site administrators setting you up and lying on you saying you started a poll you didn't start and accusing you of starting trouble. This really reduces the credibility of the site but I also believe 90% of the people reading/posting here are good people like, Wing.

    I have been banished to the Red Stripe Lounge for my screen name, avatar and speaking my mind but I don't care because I have Red Stripe Beer here. Some closed mind people on this site have expressed discontent with my screen name and avatar, but it's just my salute to the "MAN" and it's on every off-road vehicle I own and race (I'd like to thank my sponsors Duct Tape, Zip Ties and Bailing Wire). It's not a personal attack on anyone, I'm a firm believer less Government is better Government. I think the Government Cheese Programs and all the Gov't Mules we hire have put this great country in the situation it's in now.

    Anyway, good luck. I used to live in Ft. Collins, CO then Boulder/Denver. Wonder if the Dark Horse Saloon is still on Arapaho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Q2 View Post
    Hey COLOC8, I think you are a class act and an asset to the locating industry. The fact that you came to this site seeking info to refine your skills and share your knowledge proves that. Too bad you got ambushed and dragged into a knucklehead arguement that I'm positive you don't want. To top it off now you have the site administrators setting you up and lying on you saying you started a poll you didn't start and accusing you of starting trouble. This really reduces the credibility of the site but I also believe 90% of the people reading/posting here are good people like, Wing.

    I have been banished to the Red Stripe Lounge for my screen name, avatar and speaking my mind but I don't care because I have Red Stripe Beer here. Some closed mind people on this site have expressed discontent with my screen name and avatar, but it's just my salute to the "MAN" and it's on every off-road vehicle I own and race (I'd like to thank my sponsors Duct Tape, Zip Ties and Bailing Wire). It's not a personal attack on anyone, I'm a firm believer less Government is better Government. I think the Government Cheese Programs and all the Gov't Mules we hire have put this great country in the situation it's in now.

    Anyway, good luck. I used to live in Ft. Collins, CO then Boulder/Denver. Wonder if the Dark Horse Saloon is still on Arapaho.
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    4Q2 : Thank you. And for the record, let me say that I have no problem whatsoever with your avatar or your screen name before someone accuses me of that too. So you've been censored because of your screen name, avatar and speaking your mind? Imagine that! I don't know you and don't know what you posted but everyone that has been on me because of what I posted would have you believe that there is no censorship on this forum nor should there be. With regard to the poll, I was wondering what the heck Steve was talking about because I certainly didn't start the poll. I was under the impression that ifinditunderground did. I'm still finding my way around this site and am trying to figure out how to do to do the caption above and a quotation below a post. I have no idea how to even start a poll.

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    Interesting statements 4Q2

    Just so everyone is clear, I STARTED THE POLL at the request of one of the members.

    Just for the record COLOC8, if 4Q2 offers you something to drink.....don't take it, even if it's in a Red Stripe Beer bottle. It's probably not beer.
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    I'm a little confused here. 4Q2... who censored you? What do you mean you have been banished because of your screen name and avatar?

    2nd, I'm the only Administrator on this site and I never accused anyone of starting a poll. If you mean the moderators or one of the moderators then clarify that.
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    I signed up for this site today, after reading/lurking for a while, to show my support of COLOC8.

    There is no reason why she should be taking the hits and getting bashed by dudes who want tits and ass on what is a supposedly a wannabe respectable utility locating forum.

    First off, if the managers of this site actually desired this forum to be taken seriously within the industry, they would have set the tone themselves a long time ago by running herd on the guys who inject porn, tits and ass posts, which dominate this site.

    The actual posts related to ‘How To’ or other items related to locating are far and few between.

    So, yeah, when someone arrives here and sees horses ****ing and women’s asses in their face, that means that this site is a joke.

    It does not have to be that way.

    But, the site owners and the guys who hang here have shaped this site into a laughable attempt at a locating site, a joke and a site that currently holds only an interest for guys who need a little T&A to start their day.

    Hey, rock on with your porn self, your denigration of women, saying that females are nothing but tits and ass. That is exactly what this site promotes.

    This site tells women looking into a job as in the industry that she will be subjected to this crude harassment. If it is good enough for this forum, it is good enough for the field.

    What woman would want to join the trade when she sees the images and reads the stuff you have here?

    Maybe that is what you want, less women?

    Which of the men who run this site will stand and say that this is over the line?

    Again, I stand with COLOC8. I have read the ignorant twisting of her word by others and I couldn’t let her take the heat alone.

    In short words, so that you mouth breathers may understand, “Knock it off.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLOC8 View Post
    4Q2 : Thank you. And for the record, let me say that I have no problem whatsoever with your avatar or your screen name before someone accuses me of that too. So you've been censored because of your screen name, avatar and speaking your mind? Imagine that! I don't know you and don't know what you posted but everyone that has been on me because of what I posted would have you believe that there is no censorship on this forum nor should there be. With regard to the poll, I was wondering what the heck Steve was talking about because I certainly didn't start the poll. I was under the impression that ifinditunderground did. I'm still finding my way around this site and am trying to figure out how to do to do the caption above and a quotation below a post. I have no idea how to even start a poll.
    When I read this on the front page... "Started by COLOC8, March 27th, 2011 11:49 PM" For some odd reason it makes me think that maybe COLOC8 started the poll. maybe that is where the misunderstanding is coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeBeFrank View Post
    I signed up for this site today, after reading/lurking for a while, to show my support of COLOC8.

    There is no reason why she should be taking the hits and getting bashed by dudes who want tits and ass on what is a supposedly a wannabe respectable utility locating forum.

    First off, if the managers of this site actually desired this forum to be taken seriously within the industry, they would have set the tone themselves a long time ago by running herd on the guys who inject porn, tits and ass posts, which dominate this site.

    The actual posts related to ‘How To’ or other items related to locating are far and few between.

    So, yeah, when someone arrives here and sees horses ****ing and women’s asses in their face, that means that this site is a joke.

    It does not have to be that way.

    But, the site owners and the guys who hang here have shaped this site into a laughable attempt at a locating site, a joke and a site that currently holds only an interest for guys who need a little T&A to start their day.

    Hey, rock on with your porn self, your denigration of women, saying that females are nothing but tits and ass. That is exactly what this site promotes.

    This site tells women looking into a job as in the industry that she will be subjected to this crude harassment. If it is good enough for this forum, it is good enough for the field.

    What woman would want to join the trade when she sees the images and reads the stuff you have here?

    Maybe that is what you want, less women?

    Which of the men who run this site will stand and say that this is over the line?

    Again, I stand with COLOC8. I have read the ignorant twisting of her word by others and I couldn’t let her take the heat alone.

    In short words, so that you mouth breathers may understand, “Knock it off.”
    Oh for cripe's sake!

    This is a forum site. There are different areas, each with their own individual particular subject matter. The TnA, funny pics, dirty jokes, etc. are in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT section than the locating information. Learn to navigate the site! If you want locating info. there's loads. If you want some technical advice, post a query in the appropriate section. There are many here more than willing to help a newbie or even experienced tech. Have some information you think would benefit other technicians? Post it in the correct area.

    The posts of female images, jokes, etc are FAR from the dominate on this site. They are also simply a way the regulars on here blow off steam with a good chuckle. They're posted for the most part in appropriate areas of the forum, and if a person of ANY sex doesn't want to see them...they don't HAVE to! In fact you can customize your settings to block posts in any particular section you want. There is an outright inflammatory section for politics that has been the site of many a war here, there are some who don't want to read it. They have the "politics" section blocked. Problem solved.

    In fact, there are nifty programs you can put on your own computer that screens and blocks images outright on any site. You can customize it however you want. Wow, personal responsibility, rather than expecting everyone else to conform to your particular standards...what a concept!

    Regardless, the reality is simple. If you don't LIKE it here...don't COME here. It's a BIG internet. Jeez, this is like somebody immigrating to another country and then expecting the country to change it's customs in order to accommodate THEIR wants.

    Steve, this has the scent of an elaborate "Justice" trolling mission all over it. Sorry I fell for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeBeFrank View Post
    I signed up for this site today, after reading/lurking for a while, to show my support of COLOC8.

    There is no reason why she should be taking the hits and getting bashed by dudes who want tits and ass on what is a supposedly a wannabe respectable utility locating forum.

    First off, if the managers of this site actually desired this forum to be taken seriously within the industry, they would have set the tone themselves a long time ago by running herd on the guys who inject porn, tits and ass posts, which dominate this site.

    The actual posts related to ‘How To’ or other items related to locating are far and few between.

    So, yeah, when someone arrives here and sees horses ****ing and women’s asses in their face, that means that this site is a joke.

    It does not have to be that way.

    But, the site owners and the guys who hang here have shaped this site into a laughable attempt at a locating site, a joke and a site that currently holds only an interest for guys who need a little T&A to start their day.

    Hey, rock on with your porn self, your denigration of women, saying that females are nothing but tits and ass. That is exactly what this site promotes.

    This site tells women looking into a job as in the industry that she will be subjected to this crude harassment. If it is good enough for this forum, it is good enough for the field.

    What woman would want to join the trade when she sees the images and reads the stuff you have here?

    Maybe that is what you want, less women?

    Which of the men who run this site will stand and say that this is over the line?

    Again, I stand with COLOC8. I have read the ignorant twisting of her word by others and I couldn’t let her take the heat alone.

    In short words, so that you mouth breathers may understand, “Knock it off.”
    Oh boy, where to begin......

    First, thanks for joining, and welcome to the show Frank.

    Second, it was your "Friend" that used her 4th post on this forum to start "stirring the pot". On the majority of other forums that I frequent, this usually gets the poster labeled as a "Troll". Nobody likes a Troll Frank. If you had actually looked thru this forum rather than just reading this one thread, you would immediately understand why it is so laughable that you assume we are all here for T and A. You really have no clue how ridiculous that statement is.

    Third, I really want to know where all of this porn is stashed on this site. I have yet to see ANY material that would be labeled as "Pornography". It simply does not exist on this site, and I challenge you to find it. Racy? yes, but Porn? No. Frank.......c'mon, it "Dominates this site", that is a massive, massive exaggeration. The pictures that I think you are referring to.......less than 1/10 of 1% of the content on this forum. Let's get real about it Frank, it isn't porn.........

    Fourth, locating content probably makes up about 70% of the content of this forum, the other 29.9% is about families, sports, politics, hobbies, jokes, etc. etc. etc. ETCETERA. And your statement that the legitimate content is "few and far between" is as ridiculous as your other statements. Totally laughable. You should have done a little more homework before posting your nonsense. Your credibility is zero in the first third of your ridiculous rant.

    Fifth, the horses and other female avatar was uploaded in defiance to your wifes post, and didn't exist on the site until she made a big deal about it. The members who changed their avatars did so AFTER your "Friend" decided to retaliate to Monte's avatar, and post her own racy avatar. This was done to "teach us a lesson", it served no other purpose. It was done to "punish" us for something that she, and she alone, found to be objective enough to complain about.

    She's not the only woman who posts on this forum. But the first to complain about the avatars and pictures. See a problem emerging here? Did any of the other members complain about the subject of her racy avatar, nope. We all laughed and played along. After all, we are all big people here. Maybe sit her down and talk to her about being an Internet Troll.

    Your accusation that this site "promotes" pornography and/or sexual harrassment and/or denigrates women is, well, you guessed it Frank, laughable. We actually love all of female posters, they often times bring us the best tips and tricks to use in the field. Wily and intelligent creatures, the ladies are. And typically the some of the best locators, I've found.

    Sixth, who will take a stand against something that does not exist? Nobody. If Steve or any of the Moderators find something that crosses the line, it will be dealt with, it's been handled in the past just fine, without your "Friend" policing the forum for us, we've got it covered Frank.

    Seventh, as RD and some of the other members of the forum have posted, if you and your "Friend" don't care for the content of this forum, you don't have to visit it. We are all free adults here Frank, use some common sense here. Stopping in and flaming the entire membership of this forum accomplishes nothing. It makes you a "Troll". And Frank, like I said before, NOBODY LIKES A TROLL.

    Now that we got all of that out of the way, we are a very forgiving bunch here and we can all let bye-gones be bye-gones, you and the little lady stop in and search thru the forums, and add to the wealth of knowlege found on this site. I encourage you to look a little deeper than you have today and you will find answers to virtually any question you may have about locating, and a hundred more threads not about locating.

    If I still had the link saved, I'd send you a link to a real winner of a Locating Forum......how many of you remember JJ's trainwreck....? Whew!

    I can appreciate you standing up for your "Friend", but you may want to do better homework before flaming an entire forum for one thread that was, for the most part, encouraged by your "Friend". You really came off looking like an ass for your post. If you two are confused about the proper manners that you should follow on a forum like ours, you may want to ask someone more familiar with forums about how you handle a particular situation. It may save you from being labeled a "Troll".
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