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    California never seems to have a problem with dope smokers... half the state is high at any given time, including all of its lawmakers.


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    But just try lighting up a real cigarette and see what happens -- because it could soon be illegal to smoke outside. A bill making its way through the state legislature right now would make it a crime to enjoy a cigarette on the state's beaches or in its parks.

    Hopefully, cigar-chomping Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will terminate this bad bill... but you know that won't stop the Health Police. Similar bans are under consideration around the nation, including one I told you about in New York City.

    Soon, there won't be any safe place for smokers, except for your own home -- and you can bet your Zippo they'll be coming after you there next. In Britain, they're even trying to ban smoking in cars.

    Smoking in one's car is allowed, unless the windows are open and someone nearby might be affected. That's right -- forget anything you belch from the tailpipe, because soon you may not be able to pollute the interior of your own automobile.

    They claim it's to protect the children... but the proposal would ban smoking by ANYONE in ANY car, even if there's no child in it. Even smokers without children wouldn't be allowed to light up inside their own vehicles.

    In other words, this has nothing to do with children. But what would you expect from these con artists? These fanatics have a complete inability to tell the truth. They invent stats and alter numbers to suit their needs... as they did prior to an earlier U.K. smoking ban passed in 2006.

    As British journalist Christopher Booker writes in London's Daily Telegraph newspaper, these shameless phonies first claimed that secondhand smoke killed 600 people a year. When that didn't get enough attention, they claimed it was 1,000... then 3,000... then 12,000 deaths.

    They did the same thing years earlier, when they made the ludicrous claim that smoking caused crib deaths. That fell apart when someone pointed out that those deaths actually shot up when the smoking rate went down.

    "With the campaigners now gripped by this new itch to ban smoking in cars, we can expect much more of the same," Booker wrote.

    Expect? It's already happening -- just look at California.

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    As a smoker, I have to say this is disturbing. However, I must say that I'm well aware of the dangers of smoking, and I've actually already taken the first step by buying some patches, and soon I will put myself through the hells of trying to quit. I've already tried cold turkey a few times, and...well, it didn't work out so well.

    I have to say though, this anti-smoking thing may be going too far. I can understand and even appreciate the people that want smoking banned in bars, restaurants, and other public places. Secondhand smoke isn't something to mess around with, and with me being a smoker I have to say that I'm very aware of the pollution I create, and I make sure I'm not robbing someone of their right to breathe if we're in a confined space. I visited Canada a few years back as part of a company "vacation"...everyone (all 4 of us) from the office went over there for the casinos, bars, and what ever else we could find, and there is no smoking in the bars there. It was a mild inconvenience, but normally smoking like a chimney when I drink, I noticed that since I had to take it outside I was able to resist the urge.

    However, no smoking in your own car? C'mon! If I'm barreling down I-35 and smoking a cigarette in 5 lanes of traffic, who am I hurting besides myself? The emissions from all the vehicles around me are much worse than the emissions from my lungs from one cigarette. If I'm in my home, alone, and smoke a cigarette...who am I hurting besides myself? Even if I step outside my door, the person 30 feet away isn't going to be affected.

    Naturally, these are just my opinions...but I think they're going a little too far with this.

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    I think of California as more of an annex than a state. Not a real part of the USA.

    I remember years ago when Grouch Marx had his TV show 'You Bet Your Life' that it was filmed in California becasue he could get a lot of offbeat people as contestants.

    Or as Gallagher said: "California is the land of granola, what ain't fruits and nuts is flakes".

    California would be a nice place to visit but I would not want to live there.

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    I absolutely LOVE the banning of smoking in bars, that one is just so F**KING stupid in every way.

    Yeah, ok. God forbid you light up a smoke while you're pickling yourself with booze. Oh and go ahead and drive home after an 8 hour bender, hope you make it without killing yourself or anyone else, but DON'T SMOKE, that might kill you in 40 years, as opposed to hitting a tree at 80mph that night.

    I use to go out alot and spend my money at resturants and bars. Now the god-damn Health Nazi's and Clean Air friggin hippie's ruin everything, so I just sit at home.

    Where I am from many many places shut down because of the smoking ban. So how does that work exactly????? People and businesses that have been around for YEARS lose their livelyhood so tree huggers can feel better about themselves?????

    This country and the way we are now makes me want to PUKE!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AULupstate View Post
    The god-damn Health Nazi's and Clean Air friggin hippie's ruin everything. People and businesses that have been around for YEARS lose their livelyhood so tree huggers can feel better about themselves?????

    This country and the way we are now makes me want to PUKE!!!!!!!!

    California:

    The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A Coyote jumps out and attacks his dog.

    1. The Governator starts to intervene but reflects upon the movie "Bambi." Ahnie realizes he should stand back and watch because the coyote is only doing what is natural.

    2. The Governor contacts animal control. Animal control captures coyote and spends $400 testing it for diseases and $1,500 upon relocating it.

    3. Ahnie calls the veterinarian. Vet collects dead dog and spends $400 testing it for diseases.

    4. Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting bite wound bandaged.

    5. Running trail gets shut down for 6 months while wildlife services conduct a $225,000 survey to make sure the area is clear of dangerous animals.

    6. Governor spends $50,000 of state funds implementing a "coyote awareness" program for residents of the area.

    7. State legislature spends $2 million investigating how to better handle rabies and how to possibly eradicate the disease.

    8. Governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the attack which led to the Governor's trauma and loss of pet.

    9. California's cost: $75,000 to train new security agent.

    10. PETA protests the coyote relocation and files suit against the state.

    Arizona:

    Governor of Arizona, Jan Brewer, is jogging with her dog along a nature trail. A Coyote jumps out and attacks her dog.

    1. Governor shoots coyote and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.

    2. Buzzards eat dead coyote.

    That's why California is broke!

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    Hey Wing, Governor Perry actually did shoot a coyote last month with a .380 that he has a license to carry here in Texas.
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    Hey, Instead of trying to take away my right to smoke......how about we standardize one freaking language to speak in the US. I am polite enough that if someone asks me not to smoke around them while I am outdoors, I put out my cigarette. But try asking someone you have to mark for to speak english when they only know spanish or some other freaking language. Makes me wonder if we are wasting our taxes dollars on this test that the US give out to legally become a citizen of the US.
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    Though Arnold Schwarzenegger's days as California governor are running out, it seems likely that his career as a politician is far from over. The Governator was asked in a meeting with Times editors and editorial writers what he planned to do once his term ends in three weeks. He initially said, "Thereís no rush.... Itís not like I have something in my mind."

    "It's very clear there are a bunch of different options because of the different careers that I've had," he said. "From the health industry, to the environmental side, to the political stuff, to writing books, to giving speeches -- all of those kinds of things. There's a huge variety of different doors that can open." You'll notice that not one of those doors had to do with the movie biz.

    But, Schwarzenegger said he would consider a post in the Obama administration. Ahnold began to riff on his credentials, "Iím a very big believer in environmental issues." The governor considers the legislation passed during his two terms to combat global warming as one of his major achievements in office. "Iíve traveled the world.... Iím very familiar with the world."

    The Governator went on to say that he would like to work on public policy issues in which he could have an impact "with my celebrity power, and also my knowledge and experience."

    Once out of office, he said, he "has plans to go back to Washington with Secretary [George] Schultz and others" to push for a new approach to energy policy. He said the country needs to bring Democrats and Republicans together on energy policies that both sides can agree on in order to reduce dependence on foreign oil and become competitive, "rather than always talking about global warming, which turns some people off." (NO SHIT Arnie! - Wingfoot)

    Schwarzenegger said he has credibility on that issue, and "people are very receptive when I talk about these things because Iím a Hummer driver Ö not a tree hugger."

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    Is that Maria Shriver on Ahnie's shoulders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingfoot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AULupstate View Post
    The god-damn Health Nazi's and Clean Air friggin hippie's ruin everything. People and businesses that have been around for YEARS lose their livelyhood so tree huggers can feel better about themselves?????

    This country and the way we are now makes me want to PUKE!!!!!!!!
    That's why California is broke!

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    Old tires will cushion BART trains to San Jose







    SAN JOSE, Calif.óThe rubber meets the rails in Northern California.

    The San Jose Mercury News says 250,000 old tires will be shredded and used to cushion the ride and reduce noise on the Bay Area Rapid Transit commuter train line extension from Fremont, California to San Jose.


    It is expected to take seven years to complete the construction of the 15-mile extension.


    Construction crews will dig down about two feet and lay an 18-inch layer of shredded tires, then encase them in fabric. The tires will be covered in gravel, with the tracks built on top.


    The so-called tire derived aggregate to reduce train vibration costs about $150 a foot. The 80,000 feet of the soft-ride option adds approximately $12 billion to the project. That's why California is broke!

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