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    Default Help please!!!!!!!!!!

    AS EVERYBODY KNOWS UTILIQUEST IS OUT OF DALLAS USIC PICKED UP THE VERIZON CONTRACT STARTING 4/1/11
    WE STILL DO NOT HAVE MARKING INSTRUCTIONS FOR VERIZON IN TEXAS
    ANYONE WHO HAS ANY INFO ON THIS PLEASE HELP ME OUT WITH THEM.
    IF YOU HAVE A FILE YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO ME AT
    mikeinnella@gmail.com
    Thanks Guys and Lets all be safe and get home tonight!!!
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    Default Re: Help please!!!!!!!!!!

    The marking instructions are in the contract, anything in excess of local requirements, and may be different than what Utiliquest had.

    Verizon has gathered all of it's prints under one software package of their own, Vipers. Since Verizon is made of numerous acquisitions (Ma Bell was broken up and divide into the "Baby Bells". Ma Bell is back as one huge phone company named Verizon) the records can vary from local to local. So while there is supposed to be some consistency in all their on-line drawings being made up from various firms there will be local differences. Usualy this is what denotes a ped, splice or other feature.

    Let's see, no training, no instruction - - - USIC , the Utiliquest clone on steroids.
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    In general for Vipers, Green is Aerial and Yellow is Buried and red is conduit and/or duct run
    It goes on from there, I've been using Vipers for 2 1/2 years now and am still learning new stuff about it.

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    What Im looking for is. what should my marks look like fiber,cable, conduit etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinnella View Post
    What Im looking for is. what should my marks look like fiber,cable, conduit etc?
    Mark everything as fiber, it scares the crap out of excavators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinnella View Post
    AS EVERYBODY KNOWS UTILIQUEST IS OUT OF DALLAS USIC PICKED UP THE VERIZON CONTRACT STARTING 4/1/11
    WE STILL DO NOT HAVE MARKING INSTRUCTIONS FOR VERIZON IN TEXAS
    ANYONE WHO HAS ANY INFO ON THIS PLEASE HELP ME OUT WITH THEM.
    IF YOU HAVE A FILE YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO ME AT
    mikeinnella@gmail.com
    Thanks Guys and Lets all be safe and get home tonight!!!
    Mike
    USIC has standard marking for all communications lines. Follow the marking standards listed in the training manual you received in training unless told otherwise. If you can't find it contact your local trainer.
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    I just hope they don't make you use the diamond marking with dual sided full arrows with hash marks at both ends. Complete waste of time.

    The verizon guys in-house mark thier own plant around my area. They just draw big lightning bolts with long corridor marks. Straight, Simple, Easy. I would do it the same way.

    Why spend so much time looking down to make sure your diamond duct marking has perfect 90 degree angles? You need to watch for traffic too.

    The lightning bolt marking is almost universally accepted as the standard utility marking and it can be made with one fluid motion of the wrist. Don't waste time watching your penmanship, watch the road for cars too.

    The important thing is that it's marked.
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    Default Re: Help please!!!!!!!!!!

    I guess I'm old school. If its a Single line I paint a Single stripe. If it is a Duct I have thre stripes with two dots in-between the stripes. I never understood the Diamond duct marks. As for the lightning bolts..... Some of the Power locators around here us them, but I have never been a big proponent of those as well. I'll stick to simple.

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    vipers are garbage but i can assist with print info if needed. not to sure about texas marking laws but here we do T2 for service lines T4 and up for mains... conduit is done with T32 or higher and a line on each side
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    fiber just write FOC for verizon
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