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    Question do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    I was just wondering if everyone gets payed to drive to there first locate. we don't but according to the dept of labor and wage if were are driving a co vehical from home to the job site we should be payed for our travel time.

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    when i worked at consolidated, we got paid from the time we left the house until the time we got back home. when i would help out in other areas sometimes it would take me 2 hours to get to my 1st ticket and 2 hours to get home. i did alot of driving and got paid for every minute of it. if you live close to your local office, elect to leave the truck at the office so they have to store it on their property and then they cant charge you the commuting rule 3.00 a day crap. then you drive to the office clock in there and when when you get get back at the end of the day you clock out and drive your own personal car home. they do not want any locator to do this because usually the property management does not want a ton of cars taking up space in their lots

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiberlocator99 View Post
    when i worked at consolidated, we got paid from the time we left the house until the time we got back home. when i would help out in other areas sometimes it would take me 2 hours to get to my 1st ticket and 2 hours to get home. i did alot of driving and got paid for every minute of it. if you live close to your local office, elect to leave the truck at the office so they have to store it on their property and then they cant charge you the commuting rule 3.00 a day crap. then you drive to the office clock in there and when when you get get back at the end of the day you clock out and drive your own personal car home. they do not want any locator to do this because usually the property management does not want a ton of cars taking up space in their lots

    one of the biggest problems i have with not getting payed for drive time ( besides driving for two hrs on my own time )
    is that we are now mandated that we cant stop for anything on our way too or from home. we have to call our sup if we have to stop and take a piss. I know some people might screw around and take advantage of a company truck for personal stuff but working under the threat of being fired for a two minute piss stop is just a little too much. I'm not going to call anyone and ask permission to take a piss!!

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    When I got out of high school is when I stopped asking permission to 'take a piss'.
    "Change does not always equal progress."

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    Back in the day I took the company truck to pick up a Christmas tree. I was extremely worried and looking over my shoulder the whole drive. I was about 3/4's of the way there when I spotted my leads Escort Wagon heading my direction...

    Fortunately he had a tree strapped to the roof of it. He waved as he drove by.

    Ahhhhhh the good ole days. =)

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    When I was with STS I would see our trucks on the weekends hauling lumber, at bars, on the highway etc.... Those were the good ole days.
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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    Quote Originally Posted by wmiusic View Post
    we are now mandated that we cant stop for anything on our way too or from home. we have to call our sup if we have to stop and take a piss.
    I know that they have GPS in the trucks in your area. They have had it policy no personal stops are to be made with the company truck on your way home for a few years at least. As far as the telling your sup if you have to take a piss is B.S. If you do need to stop, have it be on the side of a back road or at a gas station. I have been able to stop with my truck on my way home to fill up the tank and piss if I need with no problems.

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    Quote Originally Posted by wmiusic View Post
    I was just wondering if everyone gets payed to drive to there first locate. we don't but according to the dept of labor and wage if were are driving a co vehical from home to the job site we should be payed for our travel time.
    You are driving what is called a company owned 'commute vehicle' by the IRS. Under this standard wage and labor laws do not require hourly payment during the commute.

    A commute is to a workplace like an office or a routine work area like your assigned route. Travel time is required to be paid when you go to a special location like an on-call emergency locate. My firm pays from the time you received notification of the on-call ticket until you get back home. Just don't take a long time before you leave.

    All the other firms I worked for only paid on-call travel time from the time you first put the truck in gear.

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    A few other things about having a company vehicle as a commute vehicle.

    One of the things that racks up millage driven on your personal car is travel to and from work. Since you are no longer traveling to and from work in your private car your insurance company may give you a discount. Call and ask.

    If they had to pay you to drive to and from your work area for routine work they would have the vehicle parked at the office and you would have to drive you car to and from there every day. Add up the cost of that and for most people that is worth an extra $3.00 an hour of pay.

    If they had to pay your commute time and they still let you take the vehicle home you would likely find restrictions on the number of miles you could live from the office.
    In short you live too far away you could lose your job or not get hired in the first place.

    If you had to pick up and return the vehicle to the office you would start at 7AM at the office, drive to your work area, leave your work area in time to return to the office by 4 PM, cutting locate time. Which is why the companies went to commute vehicles.

    The commute vehicle is a win win for everybody. There is nothing to complain about here.

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    It seems to me allowing them to store their vehicles in your drive is mutually beneficial. They don't have to bullpen the fleet every night and we don't have to drive in to pick up and drop off each day. They charge you for the drive, we can't charge for the storage? Seems one sided to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmiusic View Post
    one of the biggest problems i have with not getting payed for drive time ( besides driving for two hrs on my own time )
    is that we are now mandated that we cant stop for anything on our way too or from home. We have to call our sup if we have to stop and take a piss. I know some people might screw around and take advantage of a company truck for personal stuff but working under the threat of being fired for a two minute piss stop is just a little too much. I'm not going to call anyone and ask permission to take a piss!!
    if i was everyone in your crew id have every locator call the soup to tell him you are stopping to take a shit when he is in a meeting with the dm.

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    Quote Originally Posted by daman1 View Post
    It seems to me allowing them to store their vehicles in your drive is mutually beneficial. They don't have to bullpen the fleet every night and we don't have to drive in to pick up and drop off each day. They charge you for the drive, we can't charge for the storage? Seems one sided to me.
    If they did not charge you that small fee the IRS would tax you for income for the use of the vehicle.

    As for charging them for storage, you can forget that. You can only charge what they are willing to pay and they are not willing so that would simply be a job you would not get hired for. It costs us nothing or next to nothing to park the company vehicle at home. Some of use have to purchase a parking sticker for it but this is still far less expensive than commuting in your private car.


    I remember an old salesman's saying "elepants don't bite, little things do". It means people will argue and haggel over minor amouts of money when there are tens of thousands of dollars already on the table.

    People see the few small dollars becaue they can relate to that amount buying them a nice dinner, TV set and so on. The large amount become emotionaly abstract.

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    I wouldn't seriously expect them to pay for storage. I just meant that because they don't have to lease property big enough to bullpen the fleet they are better off having us take the trucks home.
    They insinuate that they are doing us some kind of favor and that we should be grateful. It's just creative accounting.
    Last edited by daman1; February 18th, 2012 at 05:14 PM.

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    Here is one to consider on this topic -

    I HAD worked for both Utiliquest and USIC in year of 2011.

    Both companys deducted and reimbursed for the company vehicles use.

    Utiliquest hits the pocket heavier- the deduction varies based on hours/days? worked where as USIC was fixed a lessor burden. This goes for healthcare also- USIC better rate than the Q plan.

    NOW HERE IS AN INTERESTING ISSUE -

    on my W2 from each company in box 14 Utiliquest w2 states auto 300.00

    and there is NADA on line 14 for USIC.


    Now if both company's are following the same regime one or the other is not properly addressing the the taxing policy IMO ?

    Its not that big a deal for me anymore nor that big a dollar issue but it just makes one ponder if these companys are shooting straight on the accounting requirements with the IRS?


    Not trying to "stir the pot" of course, or cry foul when it comes to a locators nickel and dimes...


    Just saying though...

    Last edited by UTILQ1; February 19th, 2012 at 01:11 AM. Reason: better clarity

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    Default Re: do you get payed for travel from home to your first locate

    And by the way -

    elephants and such aside as professional locator chooses to downplay the policy in defense of the company HA!

    no offense but to make a point on a very clear issue -

    It is COMPANY POLICY with both companys to SECURE the COMPANY LAPTOPS INSIDE A LOCATORS RESIDENCE WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY PERFORMED OFF THE CLOCK !

    Minor as it may seem, with locating companys splitting hairs on most every other policy issue it would only seem fair that this should be considered a labor law violation...

    Last edited by UTILQ1; February 19th, 2012 at 01:41 AM. Reason: misspelling correction disregard sentence structure no rocket scientist here

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