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    Default Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Im a member of the IBEW Local union 500. I locate Gas and Elec. Work for CPS Energy , San Antonio Tx.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    The union in Tampa does absolutely nothing for the locators there... sooooo... why?????

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    With a union you can renegotiate the contracts for more money. In return, that money will wind up in the locators pockets. Its really a no brainer.

    Higher wages, no GPS tracking, no mandatory OT, Sensible layoff proceedures, etc... the list really goes on and on.

    What is Tampa doing wrong that the Union is under performing? CPS energy is a utility company, so the likely hood is he's "in-house" and falls into a different category then contract locators. The union probably works well for him.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mke View Post
    With a union you can renegotiate the contracts for more money. In return, that money will wind up in the locators pockets. Its really a no brainer.

    Higher wages, no GPS tracking, no mandatory OT, Sensible layoff proceedures, etc... the list really goes on and on.

    What is Tampa doing wrong that the Union is under performing? CPS energy is a utility company, so the likely hood is he's "in-house" and falls into a different category then contract locators. The union probably works well for him.

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    Live Better, work union !!!

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Union is only as strong as the members....This Idle stuff is crap. working through lunch is crap. Going in a man hole solo is crap...etc etc

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Why does a locator in Texas concern themselves with USIC going union in Tampa?
    "Change does not always equal progress."

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIONLOCATOR View Post
    Union is only as strong as the members....This Idle stuff is crap. working through lunch is crap. Going in a man hole solo is crap...etc etc
    Don't you mean a union is only as strong as the members 'union dues'?
    "Change does not always equal progress."

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    The florida bozo management Team is acting like they want us to get a strong union. Unions keep the playing field fair. With the way USIC has allowed these idiots to control things it is time for a union to set these people straight.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    ....That is a good question....????But he is really nice for asking....
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCableVine View Post
    Why does a locator in Texas concern themselves with USIC going union in Tampa?
    wise men talk because they have something to say and fools because they have to say something....plato

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    I heard they are trying to get a union in Texas...

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIONLOCATOR View Post
    Live Better, work union !!!
    I truely understand your sentiments. They are greatly welcomed. However, if you think the position you are in as an "In-house" locator can directly relate to anything these contract locators are going though are sorely mistaken.

    Just simply because you are an "In-house" locator you are automatically paid about four bucks more an hour for similar work. Because you are "In-House" there is a direct acceptance from the local union, and because you work for the Power company you are supported at a greater level then these contract firms who are trying to unionize.

    You can argue the union points about how you can't be fired for starting a union and how once you vote a union in you will have a voice and "we will fight for you", but I have yet to hear a union plan to support the workers when their work looses a contract which happens more and more now a days, and how they plan to put them back to work.

    I don't want to get into one of these union threads again, but they seem to come up every few weeks.

    Since you are in the IBEW, maybe you can help us answer some questions to clear the air?

    1) How does the IBEW feel (consensus, not official) about having members who are not of the trade and in turn not certified or schooled at all?

    2)Does the IBEW help with the actual changing of state law and guidelines on the one-call system to benefit the locator?

    3)Does the IBEW have plans in place to place or protect union locators in positions as being fired for a damage or company not renewing or losing a contract?

    Just curious.

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Where is that cricket sound when you need it????? LOL
    wise men talk because they have something to say and fools because they have to say something....plato

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    Quote Originally Posted by yahoo View Post
    Where is that cricket sound when you need it????? LOL
    When you ask the union cronies to answer questions, you will be lucky if you even hear cricket sounds, let alone an actual answer.

    If they can't get union dues out of it, they want nothing to do with it.
    "Change does not always equal progress."

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    I'm optimistic. It has only been a couple of days and Union Reps had a pretty "hectic" schedule which may prevent a timely call back to answer the questions.

    It will probably take a good week before he realizes that he's being "blown off" by the Rep.

    Or he'll come back with the Preverbial promise of "we will negotiate for as much as we can to benefit the locators". Or maybe if we are lucky we will get the "once locators become part of the union, they are protected by the union and reap the benefits of being union."

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    Default Re: Any thoughts on getting a UNION in at USIC? Tampa Fl.and several other offices are already union.

    They like to come on here and promote the unions but when people start asking serious questions they withdraw from the conversation and hide. If any of the union guys respond to your questions it will be with a "call us" and we will answer any questions you have.

    For them to answer these questions in an open forum for EVERYONE to learn from the answers is not going to happen.

    They have their canned responses but they won't put them in writing. That would lead to scrutiny. If you call them and they tell you verbally then you don't have time to think about the answer and really understand what they are saying.

    You should always question people who are not completely open about what they are selling. They will spend all the time in the world talking about it, but when it comes time to answer the hard questions... they gotta go. This thread and other threads are proof of that.
    "Change does not always equal progress."

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