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USIC1
October 6th, 2008, 10:30 PM
We cant get these losers out of office fast enough!!!

Bunch a damn crooks robbing the American public blind...

:verymad:

yahoo
October 6th, 2008, 10:32 PM
at least now ..............your getting k y jelly!!!!!!!!!!!! when the democrats take over there won't be no jelly for ya!!!!!!!!!

yahoo
October 6th, 2008, 10:33 PM
that's suppose to be a political joke nothing personal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USIC1
October 6th, 2008, 10:44 PM
How can a group of government officials make judgement against private sector executives when there just as crooked and decietful as those they are trying to make feel guilty...How could you do this to the American public ??? OMFG please!!!

And Im talking about the grilling of that Lehman CEO...

Its SUCH a BIG FRIKIN JOKE!!!!

And do you think they will work over Fannie and Freddie???

Oh hell no thats the pot!!!

RoadMap
October 7th, 2008, 03:06 AM
I don't know USIC! But how can the Dem's control the house and the senate for the last 4 years and do absolutely nothing about Fannie and Freddie? Maybe because they gave so much money to the Dem's in campaign contributions. And that goes for the big Exec's on Wall Street. They also gave millions to the Congressional leaders. So they will get off scott free! It is not just the republicans my man! They are all guilty. But I do remember The Bush administration trying several times to to get congress to change lending laws and the Dem's wanted nothing to do with it.

underground quester
October 7th, 2008, 03:35 AM
We cant get these losers out of office fast enough!!!

Bunch a damn crooks robbing the American public blind...

:verymad:


This forum sure is going to get interesting when USIC1 learns to show his true feelings and not be shy :yikes::popcorn:

JUST HAVIN FUN with ya USIC!!!!

gypsygirl
October 7th, 2008, 04:26 PM
I think I will stay out of the political forums....

yahoo
October 7th, 2008, 10:11 PM
hey gypsy ....we all in this now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USIC1
October 8th, 2008, 12:36 AM
BAMA! BAMA! BAMA! O BAMA! BAMA! BAMA!

BAMA! BAMA! BAMA! OBAMA!

BAMA!!!!

CASEY BARAC JONES YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR SPEED !!!


:yahoo:

ifinditunderground
October 8th, 2008, 01:23 AM
I'll join you hanging out elsewhere Gypsy. It just gets more ridculous and mindless every day. Not even real factual points any longer-just garbage. Wait up Gypsyyyyy!:escape:

Wingfoot
October 8th, 2008, 08:38 AM
JOHN MCCAIN & THE ECONOMY: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng1yXgyY8Uo&feature=related) You'll Laugh, You'll Cry...

The Real John McCain: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXT78jZ9Kw0&feature=related) Pro Abortion, Pro Gay Marriage & Traitor

USIC1
October 8th, 2008, 10:11 PM
JOHN MCCAIN & THE ECONOMY: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng1yXgyY8Uo&feature=related) You'll Laugh, You'll Cry...

The Real John McCain: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXT78jZ9Kw0&feature=related) Pro Abortion, Pro Gay Marriage & Traitor

"BUT MY FRIENDS I UNDERSTAND..."

"BUT MY FRIENDS I KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS..."

"BUT MY FRIENDS...

"BUT MY FRIENDS...

FRiends... Friends... FRiends....BUt... BUT... FRIENDS...BUT...

MY ASS I mean BUTT my friends..

I KNOW...


:puke:

beyond help
October 9th, 2008, 03:31 AM
The next debate drinking game will include a shot for everytime McCain says the words "My friends", and a shot everytime that Obama says "Bush". You better have a quite a bit of alcohol on hand for this one. Also one for each time the moderator has to say "senator". :drinks::drinks:

RoadMap
October 9th, 2008, 04:04 AM
Since it looks like the Muslim is going to win it will be interesting to see the Dem's try and blame all their stupid policies and shortcomings on the republicans since the dem's will control the House, Senate, And the Whitehouse!

:popcornsmile::scold:

AULupstate
October 9th, 2008, 05:09 AM
I wonder if Barry will put a gold dome over the White House? I might go get a job on a fishing boat in Nova Scotia or Prince Edwards Island.

Oh and by the way USIC, THEY ALL NEED TO BE RUN OUT!!!!! Every son of a bitch who voted yes for this RETARDED BULLSHIT ASS RAPE OF THE TAX PAYER BAIL OUT.

Anyone see that GAS is at about $86 a barrel? Yeah but the price is still about $3.50 a gallon. MOTHER **CKERS!! Republicans AND Democrats!!!!

USIC1
October 9th, 2008, 11:52 AM
I wonder if Barry will put a gold dome over the White House? I might go get a job on a fishing boat in Nova Scotia or Prince Edwards Island.

Oh and by the way USIC, THEY ALL NEED TO BE RUN OUT!!!!! Every son of a bitch who voted yes for this RETARDED BULLSHIT ASS RAPE OF THE TAX PAYER BAIL OUT.

Anyone see that GAS is at about $86 a barrel? Yeah but the price is still about $3.50 a gallon. MOTHER **CKERS!! Republicans AND Democrats!!!!

Well at least your vote will be for the future warden-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9-hhqbNSA

RoadMap
October 9th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Don't worry. When the dems control all 3 branches of the government. First they will stop drilling for oil in our country. So gas at 3.50 a gallon will be cheap. Because you know the greedy bastards at OPEC will cut production to raise prices again.

Then they will change the constitution amendment that gives us a right to bear arms.

Then add a couple of liberal judges to supreme court and then they won't even need to pass legislation anymore because the justices will do it from the bench!

Things will be so different in about 3 years. We will be a socialist nation. With less rights and always depending on the government to take care of us! But that is how the dem's see us.

Michelle Obama says we are a mean nation. Well? When you are the strongest and the richest, not everyone is going to like us!!!

Wingfoot
October 9th, 2008, 01:57 PM
The next debate drinking game will include a shot for everytime McCain says the words "My friends", and a shot everytime that Obama says "Bush". You better have a quite a bit of alcohol on hand for this one. Also one for each time the moderator has to say "senator". :drinks::drinks:
I forced myself to watch the Presidential debates last Monday night. It was interesting that the worst 2 showed up! Apparently Tom Brokow doesn't know there are more candidates running for the highest office in our Nation who are better qualified than these creepz!

If Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party would have been allowed on the show, Chuck would have put the record straight on how Barry and Insane McCain plan to address the REAL problems facing America today! It would have been FUN to watch Chuck make these 2 clueless bastards stammer around to explain how they would fix America while still being the puppets of the Israeli Lobby!

Chuck will reverse the Dubya Bush agreement (SPP) that blends America with Canada & Mexico by 2010! This happened w/o Congressional approval or public debate! Chuck will stop the NAFTA superhighway, the NAU, NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, and the WTO! Chuck would make sure no more tax dollars are going to the United Nations! Chuck will return Posse Comitatus by reinstating the 10th Amendment! Chuck will end the Police State by disbanding Homeland Security and stop warrantless wire tapping and the searching of American citizens! Chuck will put a stop to the daily invasion of illegals and possible terrorists through our wide open borders! The first day in office Chuck will free the border patrol agents Fidell Ramos and Jose Compean, the political prisoners who were just doing their job protecting America's southern border! The ongoing financial scandals and bailouts will be addressed! No more foreign interventionism! The Constitution Party will offer real common sense solutions to problems facing America!

In my opinion, there is only one choice: The Constitution Party gets my vote 4 November 2008!

AULupstate
October 9th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Did some research on what you said wing, I like this guy (Chuck Baldwin). I would love to vote for him if he had a real shot. But I'm gonna have to go with McCain, if for ANY reason just to keep Barry OUT!!!

ifinditunderground
October 9th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Did some research on what you said wing, I like this guy (Chuck Baldwin). I would love to vote for him if he had a real shot. But I'm gonna have to go with McCain, if for ANY reason just to keep Barry OUT!!!


Right with you on voting for McCain, he's just the lesser of the two evils.

yahoo
October 10th, 2008, 01:09 AM
i'm on that boat myself.........mccain all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USIC1
October 10th, 2008, 01:34 AM
Right with you on voting for McCain, he's just the lesser of the two evils.


THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS?!?!?!?!

THAT MUST BE THE GOOD STUFF YOUR SMOKIN!!!

TALK ABOUT BOGUS FACTS!!!

Heres a better fact- Obama takes VA.!!!


:rotflol:

AULupstate
October 10th, 2008, 03:25 AM
Yeah USIC, THE lesser of 2 evils.

Speaking of FACTS. How about Steve Ayres? FACT He IS a domestic terrorist, by action and OWN admission. GOOD buddies with your boy Barry. Fact Barry's INVOLVEMENT for 20 years in an ANTI WHITE, ANTI SEMITE training indoctron, excuse me, 'Christian Church'. Wright is up there with Farakon and Malcom. FACT Barry's INVOLVEMENT with ACORN, you know the 'Community Activist' Group who told banks FLAT OUT that if they DIDN'T loan money to low income persons of color that they (ACORN) would bring about law suits citing 'Racism' on the banks part. How about THOSE FACTS USIC?? Add to that the FACT he is FULL OF SHIT on EVERY LEVEL about EVERY ISSUE. Yeah I could see why ANYONE would want him to run this country. Apparently he ALREADY has the CORRUPTION, TWO FACED, BULLSHIT Washington dance DOWN PAT. SO I GUESS HE IS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!

AULupstate
October 10th, 2008, 05:32 AM
Oh and USIC if you choose to retort on anything I have stated as fact, especially the 20 years of being in that church let me pose this question to you before you do.

After spending 20 years doing or hearing and participating in the SAME thing week after week after week don't you think that a little something MIGHT stick with you? Not to mention that MOST of us spend our WHOLE lives associated with people who THINK and act as WE do, people who BELEIVE in the same things WE DO? Who has Barry associated himself with his WHOLE life? Marxists, Communists, Racists and Extreme Radicles who have done and CONTINUE to do everything in their power to DESTROY this country as we know it. THAT'S A FACT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!

I've been to Chicago, there are A LOT of different churches to go to. Barry and Michelle went to that church and STAYED in that church because THEY LIKED WHAT THEY HEARD, THEY BELIEVED IN WHAT WAS SAID!!! So DO NOT GIVE ME THE SPEACH 'Oh but he stopped going and denounced Rev. Wright'. Yeah OK!! Another little fact for ya. The NAZI's were only in power for 12 years. IMAGINE what 20 would have been like?

Wingfoot
October 10th, 2008, 11:37 AM
"It's not the voting that's democracy; it's the counting."
Tom Stoppard's philosophical play, Jumpers - 1972

Who can remember the 2004 election count cluster? If Dubya allows an election for 2008, we can have a repeat..... I believe Kerry won that election by the narrowest of margins. But who could anticipate Dubya's brother Jeb's state of Florida would be instrumental in swinging the victory to his brother? Ohio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O38UDMzd1T8) was missing votes in 88 counties because of Diebold touch screen voting machines! This has sparked a lawsuit Ohio vs. Diebold (http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/08/07/copy/state_sues.ART_ART_08-07-08_A1_OLAV6VF.html?sid=101).... Only the most naive would believe every election count is not shrouded in corruption! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gcJOhCHWRQ&feature=related) I smell vote fraud. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBI33kOiKc)

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/wingfootsmp/diebold.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/wingfootsmp/diebold_x220.jpg

“Diebold has made the testing and certification process practically irrelevant,” according to Dechert. (http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/blog/2006-jul-31/worst_flaw_ever_in_diebold_touch_screen_voting_mac hine_revealed) “If you have access to these machines and you want to rig an election, anything is possible with the Diebold TS -- and it could be done without leaving a trace. All you need is a screwdriver.” This model does not produce a voter verified paper trail so there is no way to check if the voter’s choices are accurately reflected in the tabulation.

The Wingfoot "Straight Talk Express" - If you are faced with an electronic voting machine on election day, fully expect your vote to be manipulated.

Mr Blunderbuss
October 10th, 2008, 11:44 AM
There's always one tin-foil hatter in the group. Naiveté runs both ways, Bubba.

sprayandpray
October 10th, 2008, 12:10 PM
I sure wish everyone would drop the Florida election fiasco. Let's face it , if you aren't smart enough to use a punch card your vote shouldn't count . 99.9% of those people had no idea about the politics involved, they were just voting for a party - the dumbest type of voter. Half of them were probably too high to do it right even if they had had 40 hrs of SM&P CBT!

ifinditunderground
October 10th, 2008, 04:53 PM
THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS?!?!?!?!

THAT MUST BE THE GOOD STUFF YOUR SMOKIN!!!

TALK ABOUT BOGUS FACTS!!!

Heres a better fact- Obama takes VA.!!!


:rotflol:

Elections will be held on November 4th, nobody has taken anything yet. If Obama gets elected I hope Biden is ready to run this country cause it looks like Obama will be a marked man. -Not from me mind you, i really don't care that much, but there are ALOT of people out there that really hate him.

AULupstate
October 10th, 2008, 07:55 PM
Hey wing I saw that too, but what you left OUT is most of the FRAUD and MANIPULATION has been on the part of ACORN drives and registration. WHO HAS GIVEN ACORN $800,000?? That's right Barry O and the Dems!!!!!!! (At least so far this year).
I wonder if that $800,000 was taxed???? Oh nope it wasn't, forgot, Acorn is a 'Not for Profit' organization made up of no less than 75 other shell companies who 'Do not rely on FEDERAL MONEY' and has no 'Party Affiliations'!!! What a load of SHIT!!!!

RoadMap
October 10th, 2008, 11:26 PM
You forgot about the provision put into every mortgage from the last couple of years. It was that ACORN got around 500 dollars from every new mortgage that was wrote. It was hidden in the closing costs. Because god knows some of those fees we have no idea what they were for! It accounted for about 500 million dollars to ACORN over the last 5 years!!!:yikes:

yahoo
October 11th, 2008, 02:42 AM
wow usic.....these guys are doing their homework.... you better stop messing around!!! i still hope after mccain wins we all still can be friends....

USIC1
October 11th, 2008, 03:06 AM
I think the Mcainsters will take it the hardest...

Palin just iced the loss with that verdict in Alaska...Abusing her power in office...She s toast...

Its over...

Hec there own crowds are even booing them...


:scratch:

ifinditunderground
October 11th, 2008, 04:28 AM
Right USIC, spin it like a record. I have spent the last two days watching nothing but MSNBC, HNN, and Fox News from 8 till 6. You have that backwards. They are calling for Obamas head at those rallies. They boo like banshees when the name Obama comes up. They are begging for McCain and Palin to be successful to keep Barry and the Corruption from continuing. Go ahead and turn that news back on and check your facts. And I'll check up on how the Palin thing worked out and post FACTS here. Go back to your Britanny videos, this is an adult forum.

AULupstate
October 11th, 2008, 06:52 AM
LMAO findit. FACTS seem to be the thing that the Obama kool-aid drinkers OVER LOOK and FORGET.
Oh and the Palin thing? If ANYONE cares about the FACTS, the guy that got fired, DESERVED to get fired. FACTUALLY speaking he was a PUNK with a badge. Maybe now he can join the likes of Mark Furhman and others who have DONE and SAID stupid shit that people have found out about. Given the FACT he wasn't fired IMMEDIATELY after being reported for doing what he did tells you something. Having a badge goes a LOOOOOOONG WAY (not to mention a union that let's you get away with STUPIDITY).

ifinditunderground
October 11th, 2008, 02:12 PM
10-4 on that. It appears that Todd Palin did most of the troublemaking but Sarah is Guilty for turning a blind eye. <------FACTS! USIC is a fearmonger that does it for personal pleasure. He's a manipulator and a pot-stirrer, and people like that infuriate me. KOOL-AID drinker? F-in hilarious reference AUL. Now you can call him a Britney fan too.......

The true identity of USIC1: Click here= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

yahoo
October 12th, 2008, 12:56 AM
you guys are going to push usic1 back to locating!!!!!!!

ifinditunderground
October 12th, 2008, 01:51 AM
One would hope that we would drive him into driving a truck a little early....

AULupstate
October 12th, 2008, 07:28 AM
Well yahoo maybe he SHOULD go back to locating. He's already proven that he'll follow ANYTHING no matter how stupid or VAGUE. I think he would make a GREAT company man!

Wingfoot
October 12th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Right USIC, spin it like a record. I have spent the last two days watching nothing but MSNBC, HNN, and Fox News from 8 till 6. You have that backwards. Turn that news back on and check your facts. And I'll check up on how the Palin thing worked out and post FACTS here. This is an adult forum.
Hey underground - I stopped putting my faith in the mainstream news to give me truthful information. I quit watching cable TV news channels/shows, reading newspapers and weekly news rags (TIME, NEWSWEEK) years ago. Mainstream media news ignores the facts and only gives me today's agenda. My awakening happened a few years after the Eagles lead singer, Don Henley, released the song Dirty Laundry. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbz8TP1_uDo) Listen as Henley dedicates his song to Rupert Murdock, the owner of Fox News.

Mainstream news is used as a misdirection to keep the focus off the real perpetrator(s) or any real issue. Here are a couple of examples:

While the Shadow Government used the Israeli Mossad, CIA agent Andreas Strassmeir of Elohim City, Oklahoma, (http://www.eyeonhate.com/mcveigh/mcveigh2.html) the ex-FBI agent turned Oklahoma Republican Governor Frank Keating (http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/mg1.htm) and multiple explosive charges (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_u3FpEseNA) inside a building to orchestrate the mass murder of 168 innocent lives at the A.P. Murrah Building just to get the anti-terrorism bill passed through Congress, the mainstream media was focusing on the patsies McVeigh & Nichols. Amazingly the newly elected Governor Keating, with a handful of his aides, found the mangled rear axle (minus wheels & tires) with a serial number(?) matching a Ryder truck linked to McVeigh on top of a car parked along side a 6 story building! Did the aides toss the incriminating evidence off the roof moments after the explosion?

While the globalist Bill Clinton was selling/giving trillions of dollars of our sensitive military technology and passing economic concessions for his communist buddies the Red Chinese (Chinagate) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG34dhU6s_8) for a few measly millions for his re-election campaign funding, mainstream news was focused on the possibility of Billy lying about a sexual encounter with an intern.

I got tired of wading through the "news" shoveled out by ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, MSNBC, CNN and any major media newspaper to determine what is truth and what is bullshit! There are independent investigative journalists out here that dig for the truth but will never get reported by the Rupert Murdocks of the world. The coming government-controlled Internet 2 by 2012 will all but seal the fate of real investigative journalists.

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ifinditunderground
October 12th, 2008, 03:53 PM
LOL Wing.....ummmmm you are one of a kind my friend. I hear you loud and clear. But we'll have to agree to disagree. I will never never never be a conspiracy theorist. But I will never tell you that you can't be.

AULupstate
October 12th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Well wing I would 'kinda' agree with you to a point about 'mainstream' news outlets but I have started to see a shift here. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed? More coverage on Obama and his past shady INVOLVEMENT with ACORN, Bill Ayers etc.. Before Barry O could do no wrong in the eyes of the media. WHAT CHANGED????? They are talking MORE and MORE about Rev. Wright and Barry O's 20 years there. WHAT CHANGED?????
Mainstream Media is ok IF you can read between the lines and filter out the bullshit. Problem is the MAJORITY of America takes these statements as gospel without fact checking things on their own.

Now on to the 'conspiracy' Wing. There WAS NO CONSPIRACY with the Oklahoma City Bombing. People with a 'cause' are just sometimes plain nuts. McVeigh & Nichols did it, the evidence supports it, Nichols testimony supports it for both him AND McVeigh.
A stationary explosion does one thing, it explodes up and outward with a 'somewhat' predicable debris field (in a wide open environment). In a CLOSED environment that field changes and is effected by the structure it is contained in, hence a different debris field with wierder paths and final resting places. Add to that it WAS an amonium nitrate (fertalizer) and diesel fuel, simple yet very effective when used and placed correctly. NO CONSPIRACY they just got CAUGHT!!!

AULupstate
October 12th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Oh and wing, 'Dirty Laundry' was released in 1982 (8-11-82 to be exact) and FOX didn't become a network until 1986 (10-9-86 to be exact) and FOX NEWS didn't come along until MUCH MUCH later. So Don Henley was either phsycic or that theory is full of shit. I hate to burn you like that but the facts are there bud and can't be ignored.

AULupstate
October 12th, 2008, 06:30 PM
As far as Bubba C goes I can't believe you would say that of the southern mesiah!!!! That man was and IS a genius and NEVER EVER did ANYTHING to hurt this country!!!!! NAFTA is perfect, CAFTA is perfect, Housing for low income people is perfect. That mans 8 years was ABSOLUTE PERFECTION and we should have made him SUPREME RULER of AMERICA for the rest of his life!!!!!!!!!

DO YOU GET THE SARCASIM OR IS TO VAGUE??????

ifinditunderground
October 12th, 2008, 06:32 PM
LOL oops.

I agree with both of you on the media, take it all with a grain of salt and DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK. I was disagreeing with Wing on the Murrah Building. I hope Tim M burns in Hell. And I hope Terry M gets his comeuppance sooner than later.

RedToes
October 12th, 2008, 08:14 PM
McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie
by Human Events

10/10/2008


Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS learned from the letter shown in full text below.

McCain's letter -- signed by nineteen other senators -- said that it was "...vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]...operate in a safe and sound manner.[and]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American taxpayer is protected in the event that either...should fail."

Sen. Obama did not sign the letter, nor did any other Democrat.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28973

USIC1
October 12th, 2008, 09:19 PM
McCain had his hands in the cookie jar to...Lets not forget that...


http://www.propublica.org/article/fannie-freddie-gave-big-support-to-obama-mccain-910/

RoadMap
October 12th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Jesus Wing! Do you actually believe that shit? Where do you come up with such stupid things to post about? I have seen the pictures of the building and have used explosives in the military and have seen lots of things blown up, Those pictures of the Federal building were from a bomb set off from outside the building! That is why the back was hardly damaged at all. If you knew anything about explosives you would know if you would have set a bomb from inside the building their would have been extensive damage to all sides of the building and hardly any to surrounding areas.

As far as dropping the axle into rubble just after bomb went off, are you kidding? 400 pound axle would take about 3 people to lift. Did they just carry it up with them in the main elevator unbeknown to anyone. And were not hurt during blast that damaged several surrounding buildings. Damn WING! Where do you come up with this shit?

Are you sure it wasn't a flying RV that crashed into the building? Or wait a giant potato gun? Or maybe that third bowl of chili you had that night before? Hell maybe the gas company forgot to locate the gas main out front on a water main break?

Wing I have called Bellview for you, they said they are on the way! Oh and John Hopkins called and they want their BRAIN back!

AULupstate
October 12th, 2008, 10:35 PM
Come on USIC do you not have the guts to just ADMIT the DNC sucks and is a bunch of thiefs who CREATED this economic mess. IT'S PROVEN FACT for christ sakes!!!!! Is McCain the best choice? NO!! Better than Obama? YES!!!!

So your whole 'political stance' is hey here's a sentence and check out this video clip I found. Why don't you google your crew, Pelosi, Dodd, Frank, Obama, Biden, Paulson and the rest do a little cross referencing and see what is so simular about EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!!!! THEY HAVE ALL FANATICALY OPPOSED ANY KIND OF INSIGHT and OVERSIGHT into these companies that CREATED this mess.

Where are YOUR facts on ANYTHING??????? Can YOU cite congressional precedence, congressional minutes? ANYTHING to support YOUR claims?? NO YOU CAN'T!!!!!! You CAN'T because there is NOTHING to support your claims, ZERO. It's just like solving a crime, witnesses are good but they make mistakes, EVIDENCE speaks for its self!

ifinditunderground
October 12th, 2008, 11:04 PM
McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie
by Human Events

10/10/2008


Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS learned from the letter shown in full text below.

McCain's letter -- signed by nineteen other senators -- said that it was "...vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]...operate in a safe and sound manner.[and]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American taxpayer is protected in the event that either...should fail."

Sen. Obama did not sign the letter, nor did any other Democrat.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28973

Hey UDIC-Those are Facts! That was REPUBLICAN action to attempt to stop this whole mess.....I'd ask how you can spin that, but I won't, because I can't see your responses anyway. Nice Job Redboots.

ifinditunderground
October 12th, 2008, 11:06 PM
Road, I like Wing so I am gonna let that go......but i did laugh my ass off. Wing, you did have that one coming.

USIC1
October 13th, 2008, 02:32 AM
GIT READY FOR THE BIG L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/53771.html



:jumpinsmile:

RoadMap
October 13th, 2008, 02:38 AM
Looks like another stupid video link. Since I have not looked at any yet I will not look at this one either!

Wingfoot
October 13th, 2008, 04:29 AM
Oh and wing, 'Dirty Laundry' was released in 1982 (8-11-82 to be exact) and FOX didn't become a network until 1986 (10-9-86 to be exact) and FOX NEWS didn't come along until MUCH MUCH later. So Don Henley was either phsycic or that theory is full of shit. I hate to burn you like that but the facts are there bud and can't be ignored.
upstate - I agree with all you have stated. Please listen to the first 20 seconds of my youtube connection and you will hear Don Henley dedicate Dirty Laundry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbz8TP1_uDo) to Murdock at this concert. It's obvious this particular concert happened way after 9 October 1986. I did not want to reference Rupert Murdock as the inspiration for the song. Don had many hits with the Eagles. Dirty Laundry was Henley's first hit as a solo artist.

Henley values his privacy, and hates it when reporters pry into his personal life. Henley had to deal with increased press attention when his girlfriend, Maren Jensen, came down with Epstein-Barr Syndrome. She recovered, but they broke up soon after. Dirty Laundry is a song written about unscrupulous newspeople doing anything for a story. The lyrics make fun of news anchors who are more concerned with their looks than accurately reporting the news. Many local news stations have at least one "bubble headed bleach blond."

In November of 1980, Henley was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor and possession of marijuana, cocaine, and Quaaludes after paramedics treated a 16-year-old girl suffering from drug intoxication at his Los Angeles home. This incident was a big influence on the song. Not Rupert Murdock!

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I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I dont have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick em when theyre up
Kick em when theyre down
Kick em when theyre up
Kick em when theyre down
Kick em when theyre up
Kick em when theyre down
Kick em when theyre up
Kick em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
Its interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You dont really need to find out whats going on
You dont really want to know just how far its gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick em when theyre up
Kick em when theyre down
Kick em when theyre up
Kick em when theyre down

Kick em when theyre up
Kick em when theyre down
Kick em when theyre stiff
Kick em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When its said and done we havent told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry!

AULupstate
October 13th, 2008, 06:35 AM
Oh ok now things are a little bit more clear. I know you dig the conspiracy stuff but I was confused there.

See USIC, that's what a little clarification can do. You might want to take some notes!

USIC1
October 13th, 2008, 12:08 PM
I dont need songs to promote the facts and the truth...

I d just a soon be crystal clear...

Thats why Ifindit couldnt defend the one piece of shameful evidence and that is all it took...

There was no defense...

In the real business world they clean house for failures...

Electing McSame is not cleaning house and taking us off the ongoing derailment of our country...

Thank U very much

AULupstate
October 13th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Ummm, OK ? I don't know what the song has to do with anything about the facts and truth. Wing put the lyrics up AFTER making a STATEMENT in his OWN words to shed a little more clarity on what he meant. You on the other hand have NEVER really put ANYTHING in your own words or EVEN quoted anyone while 'explaining' your position. All you do is post links (that NO ONE clicks on, so we still have NO IDEA what your talking about).

I do agree with you in regards to Cleaning House in the 'REAL' Business World. Unfortuneately we have already SEEN what lengths Washignton will go to to SAVE their buddies who run companies into the ground (and make SIGNIFICANT contributions to Washington). But UNLIKE you I'm in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM willing to give a guy the job who ISN'T remotely qualified for it.
Let me put it in Locator Terminology: How many of us have seen what Hiring a Manager with NO EXPERIENCE in Locating does to a company? We have ALL seen it and we have ALL bitched about it. Let's say that Manager came from Fed-Ex or UPS, I'm sure that person was REALLY good at those companies (so why does he want to be a Manager with a Locating Company?). Does that Manager have CLUE 1 as to what his new people do on a daily basis? Does that Manager even BOTHER to learn about his new career path or does he just sit in the office?
Another example of being unqualified. How many of us out there on 'The Vine' served in the military and held a Security Clearance Top Secret or higher? I did and when they did my background check they TALKED TO EVERYONE. Obama could NOT even pass a background check just with WHAT WE KNOW about him. Imagine what WE DON'T KNOW? Just being involved with Wright, Ayers and ACORN (being investigated for Fraud) would DQ him faster than shit. HE'S ON THE TICKET FOR THE PRESIDENCY????

USIC1
October 13th, 2008, 10:30 PM
[QUOTE=AULupstate;8261]You on the other hand have NEVER really put ANYTHING in your own words or EVEN quoted anyone while 'explaining' your position. All you do is post links (that NO ONE clicks on, so we still have NO IDEA what your talking about).
QUOTE]

Since most of your insight was opinionated irrelevant rhetoric :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah: I erased all of what I really felt necessary to address...

I wil challenge your OPINION though against your concocted OBAMA security threat revelation... So if Obama had enough dirt to make him such a national security threat than why would nt facts be known by now and sunk his ship 3 weeks before the election in which there is a landslide victory on the horizon??? This really makes me question what the hec your talking about???


And about you and others not considering my links to the facts, I believe its more of an avoidance of facing the facts which are publicized to the general public in a fairly, clear, concise, and comprehendible manner at least for those with half a brain...Its not like you need to interpret me but journalists that have more knowledge than you me and the whole forum put together...

:happy: OH and Touche back at ya!

USIC1
October 13th, 2008, 11:17 PM
I told everyone not to sell and the markets would bounce back !!!

:yikes:

Oh Crap!!!

This turn around is not helping the OBama Express!!!

RoadMap
October 13th, 2008, 11:26 PM
Obama told a supporter today who asked a question about why they would tax him more for being successful. And Obama said " we want to tax you for being successful to give to others so maybe they could be successful to! We want to spread the wealth!" Sounds like income redistribution to me! So he wants to reward the lazy people.

To put this in perspective I will use a quick example. Your kid is in High School and works his but off and has straight A's. So they take a couple of A's away to give to Tommy who is lazy and does not apply himself. So he can feel successful to!!!!!!!!!!

gypsygirl
October 13th, 2008, 11:34 PM
That is the typical democrat view... more like socialism.. Barrack Obama... or should we say Karl Marx ...????? ... is a big supporter of this.

USIC1
October 14th, 2008, 12:02 AM
HEY!!!

DONT FIGHT THE MAJORITY!!!

Only shows the trickling down never trickled...
The majority that played by the rules and did work hard made less and less and work dissappeared out the country so it never paid off...
Now the system that overrewarded the few at the top will really have to pay its dues to compensate for the larger voting majority at the bottom who better be cared for or all hell will break loose in this country!!!

HA! HA! HA!

Look at the polls!!! Look at the polls!!! I tell ya...

A new Saviour will reign over the disenchanted majority!!!

AULupstate
October 14th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Gypsy, Road map you guys are EXACLTY RIGHT. Marxism-Lenonism is what Barry wants to do to this country. Granted a class struture sucks but at LEAST the OPPORTUNITY was there to move up. IF Barry gets elected THERE WILL NOT BE ANYONE in this country who wants to start new businesses, expand on existing business and a majority will probably just shut there doors for good and take whatever jobs are left. I mean WHY would you want to BETTER yourself when the government does it for you? Why would you WANT to show your kids that HARD WORK and a GOOD WORK ETHIC get you places in life. Nope just easier to bitch and cry till you get the 'playing field' even.
Obama/Biden are the peak as to why this country is the way it is. Oh we know you lost but your still special so here's a trophy. It's not YOUR fault your not smart enough to get good grades but your special so here's your diploma. NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!
You suck at whatever you do YOU FAIL and LEARN TO DO IT BETTER. NO help no assistance! When did picking YOURSELF up by the boot straps become a BAD thing in this country? When did doing it yourself become bad?
That's the DNC way! Awarding the loosers so they can feel like the winners!

Oh and USIC, yeah the polls don't really matter because HALF of those 'registered' voters are FELONS, they can't vote anyway! Not to mention it AIN'T November 8th yet!

USIC1
October 14th, 2008, 01:17 AM
Oh and USIC, yeah the polls don't really matter because HALF of those 'registered' voters are FELONS, they can't vote anyway! Not to mention it AIN'T November 8th yet!


Yeah, pass on that date to all your fellow voters...

I would nt want you to be late for the election or anything!!!


:D

yahoo
October 14th, 2008, 01:26 AM
wow!!! i miss one day on this forum and you guys go to town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what did i miss?????

ifinditunderground
October 14th, 2008, 01:56 AM
GYPSY!!! Gettin in on the madness! Welcome aboard Gypsy!:smiliedance::drinks::yelclap::yahoo::thumbs up2::bonk::cool:

AULupstate
October 14th, 2008, 02:18 AM
Sorry, yeah the 8th is local elections. Thanks for the help USIC.

USIC1
October 27th, 2008, 04:33 AM
AT IT AGAIN!!!


http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE49P2N520081027


Just asking for trouble and WWIII !!!