US Troops FORCED to serve a foreign power?

[Wingfoot]

You support the Constitution of The United States only when it serves YOU?

Oh and by the way do some homework, this Country was BORN out of Tolerance, the BIBLE teaches Tolerance.

True 'FREEDOM' is offensive that's the beautiful thing about it.

By the way, the America I served and protected was one based on the constitution and to defend it from ALL enemies, Foreign and Domestic; with NO Religious or Political bias.

That's what I fought for, EVERYONE'S Freedom.

Mmmmmmmmm - Mr. upstate - That may not be completely accurate.

You are correct that every U.S. soldier takes an express and solemn oath to “support and defend the Constitution.” That oath rang true for the first 220 years of our Great United States. But thanks to our globalist ex-President, Bill Clinton, the Oath of Allegiance was modified in 1996, "to defend the Constitution, if so ordered by the president and superior officers, and to do this without regard to whether such orders violate the Constitution:"

"I, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

So help me God!"

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This is history repeating itself - The German army's Oath to Der Führer after the Reichstag fire!

The Oath of Allegiance modification was instituted because of ONE troop - Michael G. New (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3415698556870016651) - A REAL American HERO! A HERO as great as McArthur and Patton! Just as the New World Order bastards Eisenhower & Truman did to our WWII heroes Patton & McArthur, One Worlder Billy Boy viciously attacked lowly Michael New! Spc. 4 Michael G. New defied President Clinton's direct (and illegal) order to wear a baby-blue United Nations beret and arm band, and refused to serve under foreign officers in the United Nations military operations in Macedonia, back in 1995! At New's battalion briefing about the deployment to Macedonia, the U.S. troops present were told, "We wear the U.N. uniform because it looks fabulous!" Soldier New cherishes out dated views of Duty, Honor and Country. He has endured a court-martial in Germany and has received a Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD) from the Military for refusing to serve in the United Nations military!

Thanks to our government-controlled, corporate-owned, mainstream media "news" coverage, today's recruits have never heard this story. They were playing in sand boxes in 1995! And now they're serving in sand storms, behind sand bag protective barriers, and have no idea that, instead of "making the world safe for democracy," they are enforcing the will of the United Nations on what was once a sovereign nation. Unknowingly, they are implementing the New World Order.

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Michael G. New - A True American Hero!

Michael has the United States government in somewhat of a quandary. If they let him off, then they'll have to let anyone off who refuses to serve in the United Nations military. If they hammer him, they have to admit in public that Americans are no longer free to serve their own country exclusively - an admission they do not want to make.

American soldiers are sent into service of the United Nations military daily without the constitutional permission of Congress. When the American military becomes a pawn in the hands of the New World Order, then our country is no longer free. If we don't wake up our military now to what is being done to them, then there will be no turning back, and no preventing the One World Government led by the United Nations.

[Hurricane9]

And you seem to be off base here Wing. From my point of view, lemme explain the way I see it. Please note, this is my personal opinion, and not that of the Army. I am speaking for myself here.

During my first tour here in country, I was under direct control of the U.S. military. At the top of the food chain was the President. I did my job, and our basic mission was to kick the shit out of the Taliban, and kill as many as possible.

Now, during my second tour, I am wearing an I.S.A.F. patch on my left shoulder. That stand for International Security Afghanistan Force. So, that means this time, at the top of the food chain, is the UN. But, our mission is still the same, to kick the shit out of the Taliban. On my first tour, it was Americans dying while kicking the shit out of the Taliban. Now, it's Brits, Canadians, and French dying right along side the American soldiers.

From my personal point of view, if being assisted by the UN means that the death is spread around, and there are more people than ever before that want to kick the shit out of the Taliban, then I am all for it. I was ordered to Active Duty under Title 10 of USC. That law gives the President to deploy my ass anywhere he sees fit, to do my military duty. If that means I serve with Canadians or the Polish Army, then so be it. As long as the common goal is the kick the shit out of the enemy, I am happy to follow those orders.

If the UN is so bad, then develop a better plan that what's in place.

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wow you guys are speaking greek to me .....all that stuff sounds interesting to say the least......

[AULupstate]

I took my first oath in January of 1991 and the first thing I got to do was deploy under a 'Coalition' of world powers to rescue Kuwait and protect our very very good friends the Saudi's. Well let's see, the last time I served under the UN in any capacity was 1993 in Africa. I wasn't told I was going to I was actually asked as a volunteer to serve as part of the UN contingent, yes I wore the bullet magnet blue and recieved my groovy UN Peace Keeper Medal and what we were doing there was at least personally for me pretty important, oops I was under the UN in Bosnia also. Now both of those missions were to stop Genocide that under any other capacity the US didn't want to really get dirty in doing so. After that I made my E-5 and left the Regular Army for something a little different. That experience opened up a whole new realization into foreign cultures, affairs and lifestyles that are very very contrary to ours in the US.
Was I a pawn in my own governments agendas? You bet your ass I felt that way sometimes. Did I ever do something I did not volunteer to do? Not Once! I knew my place as a Professional Soldier, I was not the designer of Forgein Policy I was the instrument to enforce it.
After leaving the Army in 2003 and joining the civilian population again, I formed a pretty good picture about our country. Lazy, Ignorant, Intolerant and so full of ouselves that if we ever had to live like many other cultures live 3 quarters of this countries population would be dead. "Somebody should do this for us" Somebody should give us this or that" Oh those people are bad because they do this or they live a different lifestyle than me"
That is why our country is the way it is. Sue happy, broke, out sourced to the hilt and full of people who accept no responsibility for their own well being. They sit and wait for the proverbial handout because "they deserve it"

If there is a "New World Order" it is because WE let there be one.

[sprayandpray]

I guess you are going to join the many hundreds who leave the US for a better country? I'm not trying to be an a--hole, but I'll stay here and ride out this "sinking ship" until someone comes up with something better.

[Wingfoot]

Hey Hurricane & upstate - Thanks for doing your patriotic duty! I am proud of you and all in the military who are serving our great country! Luv ya Man! My thread was not to attack any military troops. Nor was I suggesting Michael New was the only American hero since General McArthur. Michael refused a direct order to "volunteer" for United Nations military service, received a court martial and a Bad Conduct Discharge. Michael New does not consider himself a hero, but a soldier betrayed by his president.

My point: for 220 years, my country's military was in direct response to the will of Congress. In 1996, my country's military was hijacked from Congress and now serves at the pleasure of the President. The same thing happened in Nazi Germany in 1933.

“Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.” - Edmund Burke - British Statesman and Philosopher, 1729-1797

[Hurricane9]

Actually, when you look back, you will see that it was hijacked for the Korean War. That was a UN controlled police action. Then, it happened again in Vietnam. Then, it happened again with Desert Storm, then Somolia. The first real time, since WWII, the U.S. did anything without asking for the approval of the UN was in October, 2001, when we invaded Afghanistan. As far as I know, we did not ask for permission from anyone to do that. Our president made the decision to release the hounds, and we have been kicking the shit out of the Taliban since.

I understand what you are saying about our military being hijacked. But, it goes back to Korea when it started. I personally think the military should be at the service of the President. Since all the President has to do is make a phone call, and the military is moving, that's what works best in today's world.

Take Georgia for example. If it was in the U.S. best interest to stop Russia there, GW could make one phone call, and have a Heavy Brigade moved there within a week. If it had to go through Congress, it would take weeks, if not months just to floor the discussion, and put it to a vote. Our military is a very powerful tool. When needed, it has to move fast.

[AULupstate]

BINGO, what he said:iagree:. I do not agree with a policy that Court Martials someone because they do not want to serve under a Foreign Power, but, it is nothing new to the US Military.
It actually started in WW1 with many Americans joining the British and Canadian Armies. Until the US actually got involved with the war. The Expeditionary Force under Gen. Pershing had to put up with alot of crap from the French. WW2 same thing, we had to put up with Gen. Montgomery from the Brits (pompus ass that he was) not to mention the Russians. Korea, Vietnam etc. etc. all just a bunch of messes that are dealt with by the SOLDIER, AIRMAN, SAILOR or MARINE.
Hell the only wars we have ever fought that no forgein government had a hand in own dealings are the Civil War, Spanish American War and the Indian Wars (not the French and Indian War technically we were still British Colonies).
No I am never going to leave my country for another, with all of its flaws and problems it is still one of the best, it isn't the best anymore but it can be again if EVERYONE takes a look in the mirror and realizes that the person looking at them is the beginning of long process of fixing it and NO ONE ELSE.

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thanks for the history lesson guys..................very well thought out and obviously said with conviction......i'm willing to say ...never seen any other land.....that our country is blessed beyond way beyond any other country will ever see in our lifetime....there's alot of problems here in our country but i think far fewer than other country's!!!!!!

[Hurricane9]

Well, having been around this world a couple times now, I can honestly say that we do have the best country in the world. In the U.S., anyone, and I do mean anyone, can work hard enough, and go as far as they want to go in life. We can say what we choose to say. Heck, anyone can go down to the city courthouse, get a permit to have a speech in the center of town, and talk about how bad the mayor is, or anything they want to.

Try that in any country in the Middle East, Africa, heck, even alot of countrys in Europe, and you will be in a world of trouble, if not killed. Every country has problems, and the U.S. has our share of them too. But, we still have the most freedom of any country.

[gypsygirl]

:iagree:

[AULupstate]

I just don't see why people have to be haters just because of preconcieved notions. I understand being pissed off and not liking people but at least in my life I give EVERYONE the chance to prove themselves. Believe me alot of times they will give you specific enough reasons not to like them.

I mean really, do any of us personally know Ellen and Portia? I am pretty sure the answer is no. People hate them (or dislike them ALOT) based on their personal issues and choices and lifestyles. It's 2008 and we essentially still live in the good ole Puritan society that started this country when the Pilgrims were kicked out of Europe.

Our society cares more about Religion, Homosexuality and Hollywood more than What's really wrong with Public Schools (which suck as a whole and not because there is no prayer in them), Law Enforcement (How can 2 Border Patrol Agents be in Prison for shooting a Drug Running Illegal and that asshole gets immunity for testifying), Government (Why are we in debt to a friggin COMMUNIST COUNTRY?)

There ARE BIGGER things to focus on than Starlets crotches, titties, Lesbian Couples and every other ignorant thing that deverts us away from REAL FIXABLE PROBLEMS.

I would love to see ALL of us no matter what religion, race, sexual orientation and political affiliation just get or acts together be civil to each other focus on the real problems, fix them, THEN and ONLY THEN work the other issues out.

If we put half of the effort we do in working to accomplish this as we do into hating things, this country will be better off.

That is my point.

Thank you all for your points of view and personal covictions, that is why this is still a good nation. WE do have that freedom and it is respected.

[Devildog]

I don’t necessarily agree with the premise that these women are hated by our society. Now we might hate their lasciviousness, i.e. the sin, and the way they bring it out or to the forefront that would cause others to stumble. You want to see someone or a religion that hates people like Ellen or Portia, you let them go to Iran and practice their debauchery, and see where it gets them. No, I think our society (America) is far more tolerant of these things than other countries, and I would dare say to a fault.

And your statement about society caring more about religion, homosexuality, and Hollywood may be partially true for some, but again I’d dare say there are far more that are concerned about those things you care about. I for one write my congressmen at the very least once a month complaining about those things you brought up, i.e., schools, economy, debt to foreign countries, etc.

[AULupstate]

Sorry I got off the wrong thread here. This should have been posted on Only in America 2.

[ifinditunderground]

There ARE BIGGER things to focus on than Starlets crotches, titties, Lesbian Couples and every other ignorant thing.....

Yeah, but what fun things to worry about.....:icon_eek::good::escape::thumbsup2:

[sprayandpray]

Hmmm, no response from the Sic1??? He must be in the 21 day Schneider School learning how to terrorize people in small cars.:yikes: