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[Chicagoman]

Hey you IL USIC locator's What do you think of your $500.00 NOW

READ THIS:The Supervisor provides leadership to the team they manage as well as to their peers within the organization. The successful candidate must demonstrate the courage to make decisions, balancing the benefits of speed with the thoroughness of information gathered. The candidate must also demonstrate the ability to exercise decision-making with compassion, proactively considering the ripple effect of decisions. All leaders at SM&P are expected to live in balance across the tenets of leadership: courage, compassion and clarity. They must be able to communicate clearly and proactively, keeping the work group informed of both local and corporate information.



All candidates MUST have 2 years Supervisory experience.


Do not apply if you do not have the required experience.


A one time bonus of $10,000 will be paid to the successful candidate that accepts the position.

SM&P has an Area Supervisor position available in Tulsa District

Successful candidates must live or relocate to Oklahoma

Qualified candidates should send a resume to:



SM&P Utility Resources, Inc.

Attn: Lewis Strange

1743 Quincy Ave, Unit 143

Naperville, IL 60540

Or email to: Lewisstrange@usicinc.com



Application Deadline: Monday July 7th 2008



General Duties:

Manage assigned locators in a defined geographic territory.

Locate and mark underground utility lines.

Maintain positive employee, client and public relations.



Specific Duties:

Maintain quality and productivity with locating activity.

Organize and distribute locating workload.

Counsel, train and develop locators' skills.

Record/analyze locators' hours/days worked.

Ensure policies and procedures are followed.

Maintain positive morale by serving as a positive role model

Perform audits on selected locates and discuss results with locator.

Serve as liaison between locators and District Manager.

Counsel with District Manager on warnings, suspensions, and terminations.

Administer disciplinary procedures.

Complete timely employee performance evaluations.

Conduct thorough investigation of cable cuts, and assure that service failure reports are properly completed and processed.

Serve as a troubleshooter and counsel locators on difficult locates.

Ensure neat and clean appearance of all assigned vehicles and equipment and maintenance of vehicles and equipment.

Properly prepare and process all required reports.

Support and monitor safety program compliance.

Ensure team members have adequate inventories/supplies.

Maintain positive relations with employees, customer and the public.

Other duties as assigned by the District Manager.



Qualifications:

· Associates Degree preferred

· A work history that includes 3 to 5 years of experience supervising a team of 10 to 15 employees is required.

· Financial management experience of managing a profit and loss statement valued at $3 million is required.

· Minimum Level 1 locator with at least 1 year of locating experience, preferred.

· Ability to demonstrate good judgment and problem solving skills is required.

· Exhibited solid leadership skills.

· Solid verbal, written and organizational skills required.

· Demonstrated ability to work independently and manage time efficiently.





Lewis Strange, PHR

Southwestern Regional Human Resource Manager,

United States Infastructure Corporation,

2409-D Avenue J,

Arlington, Texas 76006



LewisStrange@usicinc.com



Apply online for positions at www.sm-p.com

"For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack" Rudyard Kipling

[LadyLeatherneck]

Well, half the managerial staff don't qualify for this position! "Compassion?" Looks like its time to trim the fat!

[Chicagoman]

If there have that much money to give some guy who sits on his ass at home talking on a cell phone passing out tickets. I have alot of bills there can pay.

[frostypeters]

From the outside looking in, there has to be an interesting reason for that bonus. Are they having a hard time getting locators to step up?

That would be my first guess...

Oh, and Chicagoman, trust me more sups are pulling 80hr weeks than there are sitting on the couch. I know that posting doesn't sit well, but unless you have a golden umbrella, you can't supervise from the couch for very long before it blows up in their face. Unless of course they have friends in high places & we've all seen that...

[LadyLeatherneck]

How can locators step up - part of the requirement for the position is 2 years experience!

Frosty, I know of several sups who work from home! Not saying that is bad. If they are working and the job gets done and they support their locators, I'm all for it! I don't think they have to go to the office necessarily to get the job done! But, to sit at home and bark at locators and gripe and complain about "production" while not really even knowing what is going on in their area, UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Although, we have no choice but to accept it or go elsewhere!) Again, time to trim the fat!

[Chicagoman]

Hey Frosty I see you have Frosty Heart for locator's. The men and women who locate are the only ones who make money for these Company. Not Supervisors. So please stop kissing so much ass. NO one deserve a $10,000 sign on bonus.

[frostypeters]

How can locators step up - part of the requirement for the position is 2 years experience!

Frosty, I know of several sups who work from home! Not saying that is bad. If they are working and the job gets done and they support their locators, I'm all for it! I don't think they have to go to the office necessarily to get the job done! But, to sit at home and bark at locators and gripe and complain about "production" while not really even knowing what is going on in their area, UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Although, we have no choice but to accept it or go elsewhere!) Again, time to trim the fat!

LL,

I agree that they are out there. I'm just saying, when I was there, I was with a group of sups that never saw the office unless we had to. We all were in our areas doing our thing. Being there, is more important with newer crews & guys with experienced crews could take more "leisure" time. I know that. I know there are bad sups that don't leave the house unless they have to.

What I wanted to get across is I believe where I was with that company, we had very good & unsung supervisors and across the board you notices one bad sup for every five good sups. The bad ones just stand out more...

[PowerSweep]

If there have that much money to give some guy who sits on his ass at home talking on a cell phone passing out tickets. I have alot of bills there can pay.


If there is nothing more to the supervisor's position than this, why aren't more of us begging for this position?

[Chicagoman]

STILL NO ONE DESERVES A $10.000.00 SIGN BONUS WHEN THERE ARE HARD WORKING LOCATOR'S GETTING SCEWED OUT OF THERE BONUSES

[LadyLeatherneck]

You're right Frosty, and may I also say that I've seen some GREAT sups in my time! Some I still stay in contact with. I'm certainly not saying they are all bad. Just that lately, I've only seen the worst! Hoping it isn't a sign of little hope. Always try to keep the glass half full! Sometimes (like today) it only seems half empty!

[UULC]

There should be someone who could or would want to do the job. What if you took the job and the money and it did not work out. Step back down to your old position?

[Chicagoman]

If there is nothing more to the supervisor's position than this, why aren't more of us begging for this position?

Most of us here in Chicagoland like to work. One Sup was caught building a garge in his back yard for a couple weeks while working or answering his phone. He still working. Lets give him $10.000.00 for a good job.

[LadyLeatherneck]

What about the 2 years experience?

[frostypeters]

Hey Frosty I see you have Frosty Heart for locator's. The men and women who locate are the only ones who make money for these Company. Not Supervisors. So please stop kissing so much ass. NO one deserve a $10,000 sign on bonus.

Dude,

I'm not justifying it, merely making a point.

Couple of things though, without blowing my "alias" if you knew my situation, you would know that the last thing I am about is kissing anyone's ass at that company, I don't work there, I have nothing to gain.

Two, you think most of the sups in Chicago aren't locating? Last year, when I did work there, I did more tickets than 3 techs on my crew. Mainly, due to the staffing issues & newbies. If you don't think a sup is important, try running your route without him being there.

Three, "frosty heart for locators"...what the f#&K does that even mean?

I see you're new here. Take the time to look around, read our posts to find out where we're coming from before you spew some more bullshit like that and if you do, make sure your grammer is correct. It's much more enjoyable for the reader when the posts make sense...:shh:

[Chicagoman]

What about the 2 years experience?


I have 6 years in locating. Do I get $30.000.00???

[Chicagoman]

DUDE (frosty) We have a 85% turn over rate in IL! Why do you think that is? Because the Sups will not get into the field and help the new people. And I am so sorry if my grammer doesnt pass your standards. I am just try to fight for those new people.

[sprayandpray]

They were short 3 supervisors in the Tulsa area - not sure why -they originally offered a $5,000 Bonus. Remember though they are probably only offering around $40k to $45k a year - at least a $10k to $15k cut in yearly wages for a lot of us. Not much of an incentive in the long run.

[Chicagoman]

Bottom line guys is we need to treat are locator's that work hard alot better then a Supervisor

[LadyLeatherneck]

Hey spray! Did you get the popcorn?

[LadyLeatherneck]

No Chicago, that's 2 years experience as a supervisor requirement.

[UULC]

I will step up and say I agree with that. The locator is the back bone of the company. I would "take" care on my locators who worked and were productive. The locator who only did 15 one way tickets in a 8-10 hr day were the ones i looked at.

[sprayandpray]

Hey spray! Did you get the popcorn?

No, I haven't had the chance yet. By the way, it really would be nice to have that popcorn smilie again - hint,hint, hint. How about it Steve, anyway to add to the Smilies collection?

[LadyLeatherneck]

As you should. If you didn't, your good locators would question why not? Been there and done that! I know a guy who consistently does 10 tickets a day crap on ho tickets, no subdiv, no big jobs, and gets by with it. Who knows why?

[UULC]

Mgmt higher then me will keep them. He can just skate by doing them few tickets

[Chicagoman]

Let me ask you all this. Should anyone get paid a $10.000.00 Bonus for a sign on bonus and then underpay our good locator,s

[Goldenboy]

I was amazed to see the 10,000 dollar sign on bonus. It's because no locator in their right mind would become a supervisor. The supervisor is just a scape-goat that is underpaid. When the team is doing poor the supervisor is asked to step down. Why take a paycut to just run tickets all day long with no overtime.

All the supervisor out here are just running tickets and we're still only running 80 percent COTP. I haven't seen it this bad in the eleven years I've been here.

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[Chicagoman]

Supervisor run tickets????? Thats a First. Not here in IL. We hirer DM,s from fastfood resturants here.

[TheCableVine]

added the popcorn smilie... :popcornsmile::popcorn::stars::Titanic: and a few others.

[gypsygirl]

Okay... have read the posts here... has anyone considered that the $10,000 bonus may NOT be paid immediately? I am sure there is some fine print with this. Not justifying this but, ... if they have to offer that much money to attract someone, then if this person doesn't meet qualifications completely... it would appear that they would not be required to pay that bonus. Actually if someone had all of those qualifications... they would qualify for DM or higher.. so why would they want to settle for supervisor?

I agree that the 2 years experience is going to knock out most locators... unless they have stepped down from supervisor in the past. It is a shame that companies do not look within their own ranks for promotions of this type. It goes back to ... how can someone gain experience without being given the opportunity to experience it?

I am sure there are a lot of locators out there that would "qualify" under most of the other requirements, and those that they lacked, could be gained by someone within the company that would mentor them to make the company that much stronger & more profitable by grooming those that have the potential to be great leaders. But alas... if the current leadership doesn't meet their own definitions and requirements... how do they expect any change to occur?

The compassion and locating experience is most likely to come from those who have been in the "trenches". Granted, there are those who can really locate, but cannot lead... there are those who can lead... but really cannot locate... It is a balancing act that good upper management should be able to identify and examine each potential candidate on an individual basis.

Therein... the loophole for not giving out the $10,000 bonus. IMHO... whoever qualifies for this has more than deserved it... as it is almost unattainable, and if they take that position, they will need the money for a therapist to keep from going nuts! This is a hard business to be in and my hat is off to those GOOD leaders that look out for the locators and still manage to keep their positions and their sanity in spite of the demands from "the powers that be"...... Just my two cents worth.... :popcornsmile:

[sprayandpray]

Gypsy, good post.:iagree: A Supervisor has to regurgitate what upper mgmt feeds him/her. They really don't want experienced locators that can recognize what the truth really is!

[LadyLeatherneck]

Gypsy I couldn't have said it better! Great job!

[shovelhead]

I was amazed to see the 10,000 dollar sign on bonus. It's because no locator in their right mind would become a supervisor. The supervisor is just a scape-goat that is underpaid. When the team is doing poor the supervisor is asked to step down. Why take a paycut to just run tickets all day long with no overtime.[/IMG]And you sir, deserve that 10K for having the balls to state the truth! We have a few sups here who care about teamwork who have stepped up to provide true leadership, but the majority of our Chicago sups are strictly old school "butthuggers".

Well said Golden, well said........:woot:

[yahoo]

darn it what have i been missing????when did this post start??

[sprayandpray]

darn it what have i been missing????when did this post start??

Yahoo, the old saying "If you snooze you lose" is very appropriate here. Lots of stuff going on.

[RoadMap]

As you should. If you didn't, your good locators would question why not? Been there and done that! I know a guy who consistently does 10 tickets a day crap on ho tickets, no subdiv, no big jobs, and gets by with it. Who knows why?

hell we have new guys that do 12 to 15 in a 4 way area right out of class. that guy would not make it in our district. he would be gone first month. my sup does 15 to 40 a day depending on his other workload.

[Mr Blunderbuss]

The basic requirement for being a supervisor at SMP is the willingness to bend over and grab your ankles. About three years ago one of senior members of my old team, and the one that EVERYONE had the utmost respect for, was turned down for the supe's opening because, at least IMOHO, he was not willing to bend over and grab his ankles. He wound up resigning and things haven't been the same since.

[Chicagoman]

The basic requirement for being a supervisor at SMP is the willingness to bend over and grab your ankles. About three years ago one of senior members of my old team, and the one that EVERYONE had the utmost respect for, was turned down for the supe's opening because, at least IMOHO, he was not willing to bend over and grab his ankles. He wound up resigning and things haven't been the same since.

I agree In IL we have a 85% turn over rate. Company wide we have a 60% Not good:iagree:

[Beer~NE1]

Chicagoman this is nothing new they been doing it for a long time the reason behind the 10,000 is all supervisors have to sign a contract with the company not to jump ship to another locating company for 4 years , so would you want to be a supervisor if you had to sign that and not get nothing for it NOOOOO
so in order to have supervisors that stay they have to do that, do I belive that the 10000 is worth the headache Hell NOOO! :scold:


PS we all have a slice of the pie lets just worry about our own :ecomcity:

[GODFATHER]

Ok, Being an X-supervisor (will never do it again) I will say that I busted my ass for my guys only to be stabbed in the back and given a demotion. I call that day my demotion/promotion day because it is the best thing that could have ever happened to me LOL!!!! I figured up my hourly wage after doing all the B.S. that they wanted us to do and also (one of the few) going out and running tickets and helping my techs. And based my $45,000/year salary was about $3.15/hr so when I was given the opportunity I ran with it. Oh and FYI this was in Illinois.... ;)

And I also almost took a job in Tulsa as a sup just to get back closer to Kansas while in Illinois and will say for a fact that its a shit hole to locate in. Everything is rear easement H2O, Gas, Sewer, Phone, CATV, etc.... They cant keep anyone as a supervisor down there and Im glad I never took the job....

[thejoker]

a 10,000 dollar sighn on Bonus:rotflol: That just says......Things are really screwed up down here...You need 2 years minimum experience because we have no time to train you.....They need a drop and go supervisor.And you need to forget any extra time. SM&P will be your new hobby.... Most locators will make more than the 10,000 dollar sighn on bonus in overtime through the summer alone. It would be a very very stressful time for a while. Depending on staffing and tenure could be a real stressful time. Good luck to whoever takes it.




Ok, Being an X-supervisor (will never do it again) I will say that I busted my ass for my guys only to be stabbed in the back and given a demotion. I call that day my demotion/promotion day because it is the best thing that could have ever happened to me LOL!!!! I figured up my hourly wage after doing all the B.S. that they wanted us to do and also (one of the few) going out and running tickets and helping my techs. And based my $45,000/year salary was about $3.15/hr so when I was given the opportunity I ran with it. Oh and FYI this was in Illinois.... ;)

And I also almost took a job in Tulsa as a sup just to get back closer to Kansas while in Illinois and will say for a fact that its a shit hole to locate in. Everything is rear easement H2O, Gas, Sewer, Phone, CATV, etc.... They cant keep anyone as a supervisor down there and Im glad I never took the job....

[wet_boots101]

OH FOR GOD'S SAKES! I know this is an old post, but...

If the $10k really pisses you off so much, APPLY FOR THE JOB ALREADY AND BE DONE WITH THE GRIPING!

Or better yet- get a hold of the DM in OK by name of Brian Eggen and ask him what he & Lewis were thinking when they made this offer. Perhaps they wanted to offer the money to get an out-of-stater to come down there and help? And that's just me guessing here.

GEEZ! There are worse things to worry about, starting with getting your tickets done without a damage. Do you LIVE in Oklahoma? Plan on MOVING there any time soon? NO? Then WHO CARES what they do!

And THAT, dear friends, is MY 2¢ worth.

[GODFATHER]

And you know damn right that they will have a clause in there that says they wont get the full 10K for about 7yrs....

Hell its taking me over 2yrs to get my $1500 bonus for gettin people hired on WTF????

[sprayandpray]

Was just in Tulsa area this week-end- 1 of 72 out-of-area locators that came in to help. I believe they already have at least 2 of the 3 supervisors they needed. I think they said they had hired over 40 new locators this year. Not really a shit hole down in Muskogee but the 0 Lot line BS ain't much fun and about 25 3-way locates aer all I could handle. The main problem is the gas - ONG - tracer wires about every 10th house and virtually 1 Test Station per sub-division. Sorriest gas plant facilities I have ever seen. Everyone says we would be better off to lose the gas contract and I believe them.

However, after it was all said and done, came out about $150 up at the Casino and a buddy won over $500!:woot:

[GODFATHER]

Hells yeah thats the only way to roll!!!!